Doc.: IEEE 15-15-0399-00-0010 Submission Project: IEEE P802.15 Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: Additional Comments.

Slides:



Advertisements
Similar presentations
Doc.: IEEE xxx Submission January 2015 N. Sato and K. Fukui (OKI)Slide 1 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area.
Advertisements

Doc.: IEEE a-Updating-15-7-security Submission May 2015 Robert Moskowitz, HTT ConsultingSlide 1 Project: IEEE P Working Group for.
Doc.: IEEE Submission May 2015 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title:
Doc.: IEEE s Submission January 2015 Mineo Takai, Space-Time EngineeringSlide 1 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal.
Doc.: IEEE e Submission f TG November 2009 Slide 1 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks.
Doc.: IEEE s Submission January 2015 Mitsuru Iwaoka, Yokogawa Electric Co.Slide 1 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless.
Doc.: IEEE /xxxr0 Submission Phil Jamieson November 2002 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission.
Doc.: IEEE Hop-Discuss Submission July 2014 Robert Moskowitz, Verizon Slide 1 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal.
Doc.: IEEE Submission Slide 1 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: [Drafting of IEEE e.
Doc.: IEEE tg9-Opening-Report-mar-2015 Submission Mar 2015 Robert Moskowitz, HTT Consulting Slide 1 Project: IEEE P Working Group.
Doc.: IEEE Submission Aug Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title:
Doc.: IEEE Submission May 2014, Slide 1 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: [Response.
Doc.: IEEE Submission Oct Slide 1 Sangjae Lee (ETRI) et al Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area.
Doc.: IEEE Submission May 2015 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title:
Doc.: IEEE Submission Oct Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title:
Doc.: IEEE Submission Oct Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title:
Doc.: IEEE Submission Oct Slide 1 Sangjae Lee (ETRI) et al Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area.
Doc.: IEEE Submission, Slide 1 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: [Communicating.
Doc.: IEEE Submission ETRI May 2015 Slide 1 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission.
Doc.: IEEE TG10 (L2R) July 2014 Clint Powell (PWC, LLC) Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks.
Doc.: IEEE g Submission March 2010 Kuor Hsin Chang, Monique Brown (Elster Solutions, M.B. Brown Consulting) Project: IEEE P
Doc.: IEEE e Submission July 2009 Andy Summers, Skip Ashton, EmberSlide 1 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal.
Doc.: IEEE Submission, Slide 1 NOTE: Update all red fields replacing with your information; they are required. This is a manual.
Doc.: IEEE Submission Oct Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title:
<month year> doc.: IEEE s May 2015
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
November 2017 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: [AES-256 for ] Date Submitted:
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
<month year> doc.: IEEE <# > <April 2008>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
Submission Title: Miscellaneous MAC fix suggestions
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
<month year> doc.: IEEE < e> <Mar 2018>
May 2018 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: [Considerations on general MAC frame] Date Submitted:
<month year> doc.: IEEE < > <September 2017>
<month year> doc.: IEEE < > <January 2018>
<month year> doc.: IEEE < e>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
<month year> doc.: IEEE < e> <Jan 2018>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
March 2013 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: Comment Resolution Suggestions Date Submitted:
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
Doc: xyz January 2008 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: [TG5 Closing Report]
<month year> doc.: IEEE < e> <July 2018>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
<month year> <May 2018>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
<month year> doc.: IEEE < e> <Mar 2018>
March 2013 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: Comment Resolution Suggestions Date Submitted:
May 2018 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: [Considerations on general MAC frame] Date Submitted:
<month year> <January 2019>
<month year> doc.: IEEE < e>
doc.: IEEE <doc#>
doc.: IEEE < IETF>
doc.: IEEE < IETF>
Submission Title: [IEEE WPAN Mesh – Technical Discussion]
doc.: IEEE < nnn-00-0mag>
Source: [Chunhui Zhu] Company [Samsung]
August 2019 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: CID 422 Proposal Date Submitted: 14 August,
August 2019 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: Still More LB156 Comment Resolutions Date.
August 2019 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: Still More LB156 Comment Resolutions Date.
August 2019 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: CID 422 Proposal Date Submitted: 14 August,
Presentation transcript:

doc.: IEEE Submission Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: Additional Comments from Charles Perkins for Letter Ballot #104 Date Submitted: May 12, 2015 Source: Charlie Perkins Company: Futurewei Abstract: Additional Comments to TG10 L2R routing for Letter Ballot #104 Purpose:To have the comments adopted for further consideration Notice:This document has been prepared to assist the IEEE P It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release:The contributor acknowledges and accepts that this contribution becomes the property of IEEE and may be made publicly available by P Slide 1 Charlie Perkins Nov. 2012

doc.: IEEE Submission Additional Technical Comments Nov Charlie Perkins is allowed by the mesh rootAllow device to decide for itself "unless the encryption key... known to all the devices"How can the devices tell? Is a bit needed in the beacon? appropriate error codeError code must be specified. Is there a table of errors? "Number of metrics in use in the L2R mesh tree"How does this work? (xref needed) "Number of metrics in use in the L2R mesh tree"Is zero allowed? If not, valid range is 0x01 - 0x is wrong link costShould be How are the metric parameters known by all devices in PAN?Explain or modify Why use maximum frame size instead of average?Explain or modify Are all devices required to support DAgg / payload bunding?Tough decision :-) "E2E Retry Limit are set by the device forwarding the aggregated..."This makes the individual payloads NOT E2E Can aggregated frames be delayed for more aggregation?Tough decision :-) Reactive should not be disallowedReplace "proactive routing" by "Start L2R routing" There is no SN field in the IEInsert if needed Could allow RA IE to have multicast regardless of this bitConsider deleting the field "Security Level field is present in the TC IE."Why not put the field here? identifier space needs more description and specificationProvide text about ID space. Is it a registry? "Hours" unit is not needed.Make into a reserved bit? "Entity ID field identifies an entity"This might require a registry of EntityIDs Suggest bit vector format for Intermediate Hop Descriptor7 bits for Addresses, 1 bit for "continuation" "or discarded" -- but is pre-emption a possibility?Consider pre-emption Is a timeout associated with L2R-DATAL2R-DATA.confirm?If not, clarify handling of "request" state Are error codes needed for Delay Critical or GuaranteedTx?Add error codes as appropriate

doc.: IEEE Submission More discussion about comments (1) 43 / 10 / 4.3 / 52 / is allowed by the mesh root / Allow device to decide for itself –Not clear why mesh root needs to control brother routing 64 / 17 / / 33 / "unless the encryption key... known to all the devices" / How can the devices tell? –How does the FFD know whether all devices have the encryption key? 66 / 17 / / 42 / appropriate error code / Error code must be specified. Is there a table of errors? –What is the code for a failed Join? Where is the table for it? 78 / 23 / / 34 / "Number of metrics in use in the L2R mesh tree" / How does this work? (xref needed) –xref to the description of the operation 79 / 23 / / 34 / "Number of metrics in use in the L2R mesh tree" / Is zero allowed? If not, valid range is 0x01 - 0x07 –Various fields used for counting should not allow zero as a valid count 84 / 25 / / 31 / 13 is wrong link cost / Should be 15 –Verify the correct cost for using the link. Nov Charlie Perkins

doc.: IEEE Submission More discussion about comments (2) 96 / 26 / / 25 / How are the metric parameters known by all devices in PAN? / Explain or modify –For the Inactive Time Aware metric to work, these parameters must be known to all devices 97 / 26 / / 33 / Why use maximum frame size instead of average? / Explain or modify –Average frame size would provide a measurement more meaningful for the particular network 113 / 38 / / 47 / Are all devices required to support DAgg / payload bunding? / Tough decision :- ) –Is probably O.K. if some devices do not support, but any destination must support 114 / 39 / / 15 / "E2E Retry Limit are set by the device forwarding the aggregated..." / This makes the individual payloads NOT E2E. –The endpoints do not control the number of retries for a frame in an aggregation 116 / 39 / / 22 / Can aggregated frames be delayed for more aggregation? / Tough decision :-) –Pro: more aggregation. Con: more delay not controlled by the endpoints Nov Charlie Perkins

doc.: IEEE Submission More discussion about comments (3) 136 / 47 / / 25 / Reactive should not be disallowed / Replace "proactive routing" by "Start L2R routing“ –Agreed to fix 157 / 52 / / 46 / There is no SN field in the IE / Insert if needed –All other control frames have the SN 164 / 53 / / 40 / Could allow RA IE to have multicast regardless of this bit / Consider deleting the field –Does the implementation of multicast require configuration control 166 / 53 / / 47 / "Security Level field is present in the TC IE." / Why not put the field here? –Just in case it makes more sense to collect together related information in the same place 175 / 54 / / 22 / identifier space needs more description and specification / Provide text about ID space. Is it a registry? –Not clear how a device would know which mesh to join just based on a number from 0 to / 56 / / 37 / "Hours" unit is not needed. / Make into a reserved bit? –O.K. for TC IE according to morning discussion Nov Charlie Perkins

doc.: IEEE Submission More discussion about comments (4) 212 / 62 / / 49 / "Entity ID field identifies an entity" / This might require a registry of EntityIDs –Same idea already in comment / 64 / / 4 / Suggest bit vector format for Intermediate Hop Descriptor / 7 bits for Addresses, 1 bit for "continuation“ –Save space for listing Intermediate Hop Addresses, as discussed 228 / 68 / / 54 / "or discarded" -- but is pre-emption a possibility? / Consider pre- emption –Delay critical frames may be important for transmission and deserve special treatment 259 / 87 / / 27 / Is a timeout associated with L2R-DATAL2R-DATA.confirm? / If not, clarify handling of "request" state –In case the acknowledgement never arrives, need to clean up state 269 / 90 / / 40 / Are error codes needed for Delay Critical or GuaranteedTx? / Add error codes as appropriate –Agreed to fix in conjunction with another comment resolution in AM1 session Nov Charlie Perkins