Status of Hadronic Validation Dennis Wright 6 October 2010.

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Status of Hadronic Validation Dennis Wright 6 October 2010

Outline Survey of model validation Cross section validation Physics list and shower shape validation Status of quality of agreement metrics 2

Model Validations in Good Shape Precompound and de-excitation  extensively tested using test30 and IAEA validation suites  not linked to current general hadronic validation pages, but will be linked to new validation pages Cascades (Bertini, Binary, INCLA/ABLA) and CHIPS  extensively tested in test30, test35, IAEA, and FNAL medium energy suites  linked to current general hadronic validation pages 3

Model Validations in Reasonable Shape (1) String models  for medium energies (< 20 GeV), QGS and FTF are regularly validated and posted as part of test35, FNAL medium energy suite, etc. will be linked to new hadronic validation pages  for higher energies (test43), results are not regularly updated some results currently posted to general hadronic validation pages, but:  variety of targets and tested variables is not large  results are not indexed by release number  literature search required for more high energy data, or perhaps some will be available from LHC current validations for hadron-nucleus all below 500 GeV 4

Model Validations in Reasonable Shape (2) Ion-ion  Binary light ion validations done as part of IAEA tests, not yet linked to general validation page  QMD validations done for SATIF and other special cases, but no regular validation is done Low energy neutrons  several system tests are run regularly, but no regular validations and no comparison plots posted  lack of validation is somewhat mitigated by fact that HP neutron cross sections are many and usually unchanged from release to release 5

Model Validations Which Need Work (1) Elastic scattering  some validation for CHIPS elastic, but no posting to validation pages  little or no validation done for LHEP, Coherent Elastic, LEpp, LEnp, and no posting to validation pages  for higher energies (test43), results are not regularly updated Stopping models  test48 under development, but regular validation not yet under way  some old CHIPS validation plots posted to general hadronic validation pages, otherwise none Radioactive Decay  regular validation not done, no plots posted on validation pages 6

Model Validations Which Need Work (2) EM dissociation  no validation, no plots Abrasion/ablation  no validation, no plots Gamma- and electro-nuclear  some validation for CHIPS models, no plots posted to validation pages  no validation for LHEP models 7

Cross Section Validations Which Need Work Prototype available for low energy neutron cross sections  compares to HP cross sections, not data All other cross section validations are almost non-existent  several comparison plots presented at LCG validation meeting, but only one plot (p-p elastic) posted to validation pages CHIPS, LHEP, Glauber-Gribov  even for cross sections which have not changed recently, no regularly posted plots indexed by release number LHEP, Barashenkov, ion-ion Challenge: collecting hadron-nucleus data to validate against  lots of p-p data, though 8

Physics List and Shower Shape Validations In good shape and being done as part of LCG work  more transition validations to be added  link LCG plots to new hadronic validation web pages (or to combined EM and hadronic validation web pages) In general we have planned for more “thick target” and “full setup” validations  not much work done in extending this area  could be some overlap with examples which we could use as validation suites 9

Quality of Agreement Metrics A major request from the Geant4 External Review First steps have been made in some validation suites to provide plots in MC/Data format  such an option needs to be extended to all validation plots One or two more generally applied measures should be adopted    works in some cases, but not all  sum of MC/data for complete plot 10

Summary Precompound and cascade validation is fine String, ion-ion, low energy neutron model validations are reasonable, but could use some improvement Elastic scattering, stopping, radioactive decay, EM dissociation, Abrasion/Ablation, Gamma- and Electro-nuclear model validations all need a lot of work Regular cross section validation is almost non-existent Development of quality of agreement metrics is in its infancy 11