Spooky action at distance also for neutral kaons? by Beatrix C. Hiesmayr University of Vienna Projects: FWF-P21947 FWF-P23627 FWF-P26783 Fundamental Problems.

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Spooky action at distance also for neutral kaons? by Beatrix C. Hiesmayr University of Vienna Projects: FWF-P21947 FWF-P23627 FWF-P26783 Fundamental Problems in Qu.Theory

50 YEARS since… 1964: John St. Bell Hobby: Foundations of QM Bell’s Theorem CP violation world anti-world Are Bell inequalities violated for neutral K-mesons ?

Very short history… 1935: Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen-PARADOX ALICEBOB … 1. pair ALICEBOB 2. pair 3. pair 4. pair The EPR reality criterion: “If without in any way disturbing a system, one can predict with certainty (i.e. with the probability equal to one) the value of a physical quantity, then there exists an element of physical reality corresponding to this physical quantity.”  Quantum Theory is not complete!

The EPR scenario... spin 1/2... qubit... photon... kaons (K-mesons)... B-meson... single neutron in interferometer 1935: Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen-PARADOX Bell state:... molecules... (single) trapped ion High Energy Physics

Entanglement in biological systems photosynthesis avian navigation European robin Olfaction

What are Bell inequalities? realism locality freedom of choice* Local realistic theories: inequalities for probabilities  always satisfied!  QM probabilities may violate the inequalities! Quantum Mechanics: No spooky action at distance! Experiment has to decide! Bell’s locality hypothesis *exerting the independence of both experimenters; sharing randomness; free will

Current experimental status: Photons: many experiments, show violations but still loopholes Various ordinary matter systems: show violations but still loopholes !Single! neutrons: show violations but tests different aspects (contextuality)

What are Bell inequalities good for? Has been proven: quantum cryptography protocols are save if a Bell inequality is violated! Quantum Computers/Quantum Communication Complexity: Bell inequalities are necessary and sufficient conditions for quantum protocols to beat the classical ones!

Requirements for tests LRT versus QM Requirements for a conclusive proof of the existence of correlation stronger than those explainable by locality and realism: (1)“Active ” measurements (opening the possibility for Alice and Bob to choose among alternative setups-> free choice) (2)“Use all information” (test the whole ensemble; decay product states are included  this “additional” information cannot be ignored) are not “only” loopholes !

Generalized Bell inequality for kaons vary in times vary in quasi-spin or both QM: local realistic theories measurement device Are you in a certain quasispin k n or not at time t a ? tata What can the experimenters measure? Bertlmann, Hiesmayr, PRA 63 (2001) O(k n,t a )

Generalized Bell inequality for kaons I. Vary in time: Violation! Strangeness oscillation/decay: PROPOSITION: The CHSH-inequality is violated iff x>2 for kaons or for other mesons x>2.6. Bertlmann, Bramon, Garbarino, H., Phys. Lett. A (2004) Bertlmann, H.,Phys. Rev. A (2001) NO violation! Kaons? B-mesons: x=0.77 D-meson: x=0.01 B s -mesons: x=26.2 local realistic theories

Växjö 2010, Beatrix C. Hiesmayr Bell-CHSH type inequality for kaons Bertlmann, Hiesmayr, PRA 63 (2001) Bell-CHSH type inequality for kaons Violation! Strangeness oscillation/decay: PROPOSITION: The CHSH-inequality is violated iff x>2 for kaons or for other mesons x>2.6. Bertlmann, Bramon, Garbarino, Hiesmayr, Phys. Lett. A (2004) Bertlmann, Hiesmayr, Phys. Rev. A (2001) Photons: NO violation! Kaons? B-mesons: x=0.77 D-meson: x<0.03 B s -mesons: x>20.6 Is there really no possibility to test for correlations stronger than those for classical systems in the neutral kaon system? You have to be more tricky!

What has a symmetry violation to do with nonlocality? II. Vary in quasi-spin: Leptonic charge asymmetry: ?! CP violation related to nonlocality !? Bertlmann, Grimus, Hiesmayr,PRA (2001) Hiesmayr, Found. of Phys. Lett (2001) single kaon experiment

Summarizing… If we believe in QM, then there is “spooky action at distance” also for this system at different energy scale, but there exists NO CONCLUSIVE EXPERIMENT so far. Hiesmayr, Eur. Phys. J. C (2007) A violation for observables that can be actively measured can be found, but for an initial non-maximally entangled state. Hiesmayr, Domenico, Curceanu, Gabriel, Huber, Larsson, Moskal, Eur. Phys. J. C (2012) New Bell inequality for unstable systems that is experimentally feasible & can be performed with current technology! Frascati, Italy

Conclusive test for kaons Bell inequality Bound Future: DAPHNE ? FAIR ? CERN ? Future: DAPHNE ? FAIR ? CERN ?

Conclusive test for kaons  sensitive to CP violation !!! Bell inequality Bound Bell inequality Bound

A little history… A little history… Drawn by R.A. Bertlmann to the 60th birthday of John Bell

II. Part: Does the superposition principle hold at all scales? Arndt group (Univ. Vienna): Collapse models: breakdown 10 6 to 10 9 amu  current record 10 4 amu

Are Collapse Models testable in High Energy Physics? Naturally oscillating systems (no setup needed to get interference!): 1.Flavour oscillating neutral meson systems 2.Flavour oscillating neutrinos 3.Chiral molecules "Testing Collapse Models with Neutrinos, Mesons and Chiral Molecules" M. Bahrami, S. Donaldi, L. Ferialdi, A. Bassi, C. Curceanu, A. Di Domenico and B. C. Hiesmayr Nature: Scientific Reports 3, 1952 (2013) Nature: Scientific Reports 3, 1952 (2013) "Are Collapse Models Testable via Flavor Oscillations?" S. Donadi, A. Bassi, C. Curceanu, A. Di Domenico and B. C. Hiesmayr Foundations of Physics: Volume 43, Issue 7 (2013), Page Foundations of Physics: Volume 43, Issue 7 (2013)

Can the collapse be measured for flavor oscillations? For entangled mesons: strength of the collapse correlation length Experiments ? CSL model (mass depending): connect the spatiotemporal collapse with the 2-dim flavour oscilation Notorious cumbersome

Can the collapse be measured for flavor oscillations? Different observable! No one-to-one correspondence: Experiments (KLOE): Collapse: “Decoherence” Hiesmayr et al, PRA 68 (2003) Hiesmayr, Diploma Thesis (1999) DAPHNE, Frascati (Italy)

Tests possible with kaons, neutrinos and molecules??? M. Bahrami, S. Donaldi, L. Ferialdi, A. Bassi, C. Curceanu, A. Di Domenico and B. C. Hiesmayr Nature: Scientific Reports 3, 1952 (2013)

Summary … experiments ? KLOE, ELENA, FLAIR, … source, design, detectors !?! Testing Foundations of QM at all energy scales has just started! Higher energy regimes reveal different aspects and new physics! To obtain a full picture of entanglement and to reveal its role in our universe all systems have to be considered! Accelerator experiments can add to our understanding of quantum foundations!

Thank you for Your attention!