Report on AS/EN/SJAC 91xy Requirements for Aerospace Auditor Competency and Training January 30 & 31, 2006 February 1, 2006 Orlando, Florida

Americas Team Colin Clarke BombardierColin Clarke Bombardier Shanya Salamaca RABQSAShanya Salamaca RABQSA Hollie Last Standards Council CanadaHollie Last Standards Council Canada Carl Blazik SAI GlobalCarl Blazik SAI Global

History The Americas Team originally drafted this document in 2 parts: The Americas Team originally drafted this document in 2 parts: –part 1, Aerospace Auditor Competency Requirements. –part 2, Aerospace Auditor Training Courses. The drafting of part 1 was done by Hollie and part 2 by Shanya.The drafting of part 1 was done by Hollie and part 2 by Shanya. The goal was always to eventually have one document.The goal was always to eventually have one document.

History The documents were submitted to Asia and Europe for comments and the Americas Team incorporated those that were considered valid. The documents were submitted to Asia and Europe for comments and the Americas Team incorporated those that were considered valid. It was subsequently agreed to discuss all other comments during the Montreal IAQG meeting in October 2005.It was subsequently agreed to discuss all other comments during the Montreal IAQG meeting in October The major unresolved issue at this meeting were the Europeans insisting that the times for the training were inadequate and the 2 years experience in the last 15 is not acceptable for “some aerospace experience”.The major unresolved issue at this meeting were the Europeans insisting that the times for the training were inadequate and the 2 years experience in the last 15 is not acceptable for “some aerospace experience”.

Agreed Actions As a result of the meeting in Montreal, the following actions were agreed:As a result of the meeting in Montreal, the following actions were agreed: 1.The Europeans will prepare a proposal with justification, for the times of the training courses and provide this to the Americas writing team. 2.The 2 years in 15 is to be discussed with the Other Party Management Team members and they will provide some guidance to the writing team on this matter. 3.The Americas writing team will update the documents upon receipt of the information in 1 and 2 above and re-issue them for comments by the 1 st week of November. The Asians stated that once the previous actions were completed, they would be willing to combine the documents and format it to SAE requirements.The Asians stated that once the previous actions were completed, they would be willing to combine the documents and format it to SAE requirements.

Agreed Actions A face to face meeting was subsequently requested by the Europeans who are responsible for this project at the international level and this meeting will be held in Amsterdam February 6, 7 and 8, 2006.A face to face meeting was subsequently requested by the Europeans who are responsible for this project at the international level and this meeting will be held in Amsterdam February 6, 7 and 8, All sectors will be represented and Colin Clarke will be there for the Americas.All sectors will be represented and Colin Clarke will be there for the Americas.

Current Status Items 1 and 2 in the agreed actions were not received and the Americas writing team did not update the documents.Items 1 and 2 in the agreed actions were not received and the Americas writing team did not update the documents. The Asians proceeded with combining and formatting the document and retained the 2 years in 15 as “some aerospace experience”. The document has been circulated for comments. The Asians proceeded with combining and formatting the document and retained the 2 years in 15 as “some aerospace experience”. The document has been circulated for comments. The Europeans then included their proposed times for the training in their comments, but there was no justification for these times.The Europeans then included their proposed times for the training in their comments, but there was no justification for these times. The Americas team has provided its comments (see Americas Position) for our major concerns.The Americas team has provided its comments (see Americas Position) for our major concerns.

Americas Position The major concern for the Americas centers around the proposed times for the training courses. We have the experience of successfully giving these courses for the last several years and do not see any reason for the proposed increased times.The major concern for the Americas centers around the proposed times for the training courses. We have the experience of successfully giving these courses for the last several years and do not see any reason for the proposed increased times. This is our position going into the meeting in Amsterdam and we do not see any reason to change it.This is our position going into the meeting in Amsterdam and we do not see any reason to change it.

Conclusion The AS/EN/SJAC document is the last of the 3 international documents that must be harmonized to obtain the Authorities approval for the ICOP scheme.The AS/EN/SJAC document is the last of the 3 international documents that must be harmonized to obtain the Authorities approval for the ICOP scheme. We therefore need to come to an agreement between the sectors on the contentious issues, but the Americas should not compromise its position on the hours required for training.We therefore need to come to an agreement between the sectors on the contentious issues, but the Americas should not compromise its position on the hours required for training. Any issues that cannot be resolved will need to be referred to the IAQG Leadership Team (IAQG President, AAQG Chairman, EAQG Chairman and APAQG Chairman) for resolution.Any issues that cannot be resolved will need to be referred to the IAQG Leadership Team (IAQG President, AAQG Chairman, EAQG Chairman and APAQG Chairman) for resolution. It is still hoped that this document will be issued during the first quarter of 2006.It is still hoped that this document will be issued during the first quarter of 2006.