Doc.: IEEE 802.11-12/0400r0 SubmissionZander Lei, I2R SingaporeSlide 1 ACK Transmission Date: 2012-3-13 Authors: March 2012.

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doc.: IEEE /0400r0 SubmissionZander Lei, I2R SingaporeSlide 1 ACK Transmission Date: Authors: March 2012

doc.: IEEE /0400r0 Submission Abstract This presentation addresses an ACK transmission issue in IEEE ah, where asymmetric transmissions will likely to prevail Zander Lei, I2R SingaporeSlide 2 March 2012

doc.: IEEE /0400r0 Submission Asymmetric Transmission AP to STN (Downlink) vs STN to AP (Uplink) STN has more constraints as opposed to AP –Transmission power (power amplifier etc) –Capability Transmission capability (1 MHz vs AP with 2 MHz and beyond) Functionalities (AP may serve different types STN) Use Cases –Use Case 3 : Extended range Wi-Fi –Use Case 1 : Sensors and meters Zander Lei, I2R SingaporeSlide 3 March 2012

doc.: IEEE /0400r0 Submission Problems STN cannot reach as far as AP –STN can receive Data –AP cannot receive ACK sent by STN –Given Data and ACK using the same modulation and coding rates More likely where range is longer in 11ah Zander Lei, I2R SingaporeSlide 4 March 2012 Data ACK SIFS DIFS AP STN

doc.: IEEE /0400r0 Submission Simple Fix Allow transmitting ACK with a different modulation and coding rate –E.g. Data from AP using 16 QAM –ACK may use QPSK or BPSK Allow transmitting ACK with 1MHz PHY (MCS0-rep2) after receiving 2 MHz (or above) PHY packets –All STN support both 1 MHz and 2 MHz PHY [Specification Framework] –2 MHz is preferred whenever available ( r0) Throughput and energy efficiency –1 MHz is necessary, especially when Range is an issue STN with 1MHz transmission capability Zander Lei, I2R SingaporeSlide 5 March 2012

doc.: IEEE /0400r0 Submission Conclusions In 11ah, ACK from STN may not reach AP –AP may transmit at higher power and better off in capability –STN can receive Data but its ACK can not reach AP –Given Data and ACK using the same modulation and coding or same channel bandwidth, e.g. 1 MHz, 2 MHz etc. Propose to allow ACK using different modulation and coding, including MCS0-2rep Zander Lei, I2R SingaporeSlide 6 March 2012

doc.: IEEE /0400r0 Submission Straw Poll 1 Zander Lei, I2R SingaporeSlide 7 March 2012 Do you agree to allow STN transmit ACK with lower (or more robust) modulation and coding rates than that of received frames from AP?

doc.: IEEE /0400r0 Submission Straw Poll 2 Zander Lei, I2R SingaporeSlide 8 March 2012 Do you agree to allow STN transmitting ACK with 1MHz PHY after received 2 MHz frames from AP?

doc.: IEEE /0400r0 Submission Straw Poll 3 Zander Lei, I2R SingaporeSlide 9 March 2012 Do you agree to allow STN transmitting ACK with narrower bandwidth PHY after received frames from AP?