Paola Puppo INFN – Rome Thermal Noise Meeting – “Sapienza”-Rome - February 26 th 2008.

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Paola Puppo INFN – Rome Thermal Noise Meeting – “Sapienza”-Rome - February 26 th 2008

Scientific motivations In the advanced VIRGO configuration is foreseen: o to use heavier mirrors o 40 kg mass (reference solution) o 60 kg mass. In the advanced VIRGO configuration is not foreseen: o to change the SA Implications:  Take into account the actual payload requirements;  Adapt the weight of all the payload components in order to be compliant with the SA suspension: we must preserve the overall weight. But what about the thermal noise?

Payload  The role of the Last Stage Suspension is to compensate the residual seismic noise and to steer the optical components maintaining the relative position of the interferometer mirrors. Components and roles: Marionette: Mirror control with coil-magnet actuator between F7 and marionette; Reaction Mass (RM): Mirror steering with coil-magnet actuator between RM and mirror; Mirror protection; Requirements:  Materials:  UHV compatible;  Amagnetic;  No electrostatic charges;  Internal Frequencies above Virgo bandwidth;  Low frequencies of the system below Virgo bandwidth;  Compatibility with SuperAttenuator and lower part of the tower:  Weights  Shape

Virgo o F7 legs and coils: 84 kg o Marionette (AISI316L): 110 kg o Reaction Mass(Al6063): 50 kg o Mirror (Suprasil): 21 kg o Overall payload weight: 181 kg Virgo + o Marionette (AISI316L+Peek): 110 kg o Reaction Mass (AISI316L+Peek): 50 kg o Mirror (Suprasil): 21 kg o Overall payload weight: 181 kg Specifications

Advanced Payload o Marionette (Virgo+ like, monolithic suspensions compliant) o Reaction Mass o Mirror o Marionette Reaction Mass (MRM) (R&D)  marionette steering  no bechers, no filter 7 legs  compliant with bigger diameter mirrors (e.g. BS) Other elements suspended to the marionetta or to the MRM – see non- degenerate recycling cavities configuration  compliant with SA (overall allowed mass 180 kg)

Advanced Payload (Virgo-like configuration): mirror mass Acting on the shapes we can adjust the weights (we can play with some geometric parameters) kg mirror, 300 mm thick, 350 mm diam (challenging!) o Marionette (Virgo+ like, monolithic suspensions compliant) (90 kg) o Reaction Mass (40 kg) (Can we accept a double displacement on the RM respect to the mirror? See the TC requirements. We can share the weight with the marionette…(50,80)) Total payload weight: 190 kg but we can gain 10kg from MRM o Marionette Reaction Mass (MRM) (New coils): max 74 kg kg mirror, 200 mm thick, 350 mm diam. o Marionette (Virgo+ like, monolithic suspensions compliant) (100 kg) o Reaction Mass (40 kg) Total payload weight: 180 kg o Marionette Reaction Mass (MRM) (New coils): max 84 kg. the ratios between the masses change, what about the thermal noise?

1.Marionette (M 1,  1 =M 1 /  01 ) 2.Mirror (M 2,  2 =M 2 /  02 ) 3.Reaction Mass (M 3,  3 =M 3 /  03 ) Stochastic Thermal forces related to the uncoupled thermal forces Equations of motion with thermal stochastic forces Impedance Matrix *RSI v70,1999,”Suspension Last Stage…”

E. Majorana, P. Tricarico, “Decay Times of an N-Normal-Mode System”, Il Nuovo Cimento, Sept 1993 The uncoupled decay times can contain both the viscous and the internal losses

Normal modes mass matrix Uncoupled oscillators mass matrix

The calculation is quite complex… we have to remember that the stochastic thermal forces of the free oscillators are uncorrelated We find: The functions T ni (  ) contain the crossterms which makes the difference with the “naive treatment”

Naive Modal The effect of the crossterm is more evident above the modal frequencies and it must be taken into account to obtain a correct evaluation of the thermal noise* The normal mode treatment is in complete agreement with the FDT treatment Hz * E. Majorana, Y. Ogawa, “Mechanical thermal noise in coupled oscillators”, Phys.Lett. A, Aug. 1977

Virgo o Marionette (AISI316L): 110 kg o Reaction Mass(Al6063): 50 kg o Mirror (Suprasil): 21 kg Measured Modes o 1 =0.446 Hz; Q 1 =50 o 2 =0.6 Hz; Q 2 = o 3 =0.979 Hz; Q 3 =70 VIR-NOT-ROM and VIR-NOT-ROM Computation o Marionette (AISI316L): 110 kg (Q=30) o Reaction Mass(Al6063): 50 kg (Q= ) o Mirror (Suprasil): 21 kg (Q=10 6 ) o Q - =50 o Q 0 = o Q + =90 Using the measures of the Q’s we can infer informations on the quality factor of the uncoupled oscillators Thermal of the branched Thermal of the mirror pendulum

Branched Branched+F7 The F7 doesn’t spoil the thermal noise (Q F7 =30)

Marionette 110 kg (Q=50) Reaction Mass 50 kg (Q=100000) Mirror (Suprasil): 21 kg (   ) Behavior of the ratio with frequency

Marionette 110 kg (Q=1000) Reaction Mass 50 kg (Q=100000) Mirror (Suprasil): 21 kg (   ) Mintermediate=30kg, (Q=30) We can play with the marionette mass M(kg) Qmario=100 Possible solution: Increase the juction box mass of about 30 kg at level of the junction box of the marionette cable and improve the coupling between the marionette and the intermediate mass

Marionette 100 kg (Q=100) Reaction Mass 40 kg (Q=100000) Mirror 40 kg (   )

AdV: the MRM is helpful in filtering the coupling with the F7 F7: 85 kg (Q=30) Marionette 100 kg (Q=1000) Reaction Mass 40 kg (Q=100000) Mirror 40 kg (   )

Conclusions In the thermal noise of the mirror pendulum the losses of the marionette stage play a crucial role; the marionette mass plays a crucial role; Virgo: the setup is at the limit of the mirror steel wires losses; Virgo+ and AdV : the coupling of the marionette to F7 will be improved with respect to the present one; How could we decrease the losses? Increase the Marionette Mass  see SA load issues Add intermediate mass between the Marionette and F7 (MRM for example) Act on losses weak points on F7: Electrical cabling passing around the marionetta wire Magnetic antisprings and centering wires: probably they add viscous damping on vertical d.o.f. Crossbar positioning: can we reduce the coupling between the vertical and horizontal degrees of freedom? Geometric Antisprings (GAS ): the measured Q of the vertical mode is about 1000 (private communication) The GAS are less tunable for the load mismatching