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Workshop Concluding Remarks 2nd AACL Workshop on DAQ@LHC Chateau de Bossey 14 April 2016 Beat Jost / Cern

Run-2 Systems All experiments have invested a lot of effort to prepare for Run2 Alice, Atlas and CMS have installed new hardware Basically because of obsolescence of Run1 hardware (death of PCI-X) New PCs Improved performance CMS completely new event-builder and readout network!! LHCb did mainly software architecture changes in the HLT to maximize the quality of the physics data Split HLT and quasi-online alignment and calibration All upgrades and changes seem to run nicely Concluding Remarks, DAQ@LHC Workshop

Run-3 Systems and Upgrades (I) Timescales for LHCb and Alice are completely different from Atlas and CMS Alice and LHCb will go through major upgrades during LS2 (2019/20) Atlas and CMS will do their major upgrades mainly in-line with HL-LHC (LS3 2025/26 or so…) All upgrades aim at a significant increase in performance LHCb will fulfil the physicists dream of trigger-free readout 40 MHz DAQ, all selection in software DAQ system handling ~5 TByte/s Massive need for processing power to reduce event rate from 40 MHz to ~50 kHz Alice will implement a continuous readout of the TPC Loss of correlation between bunch crossing and event data ~50 bunch crossings accumulated during the TPC drift time Has to be re-established in software after reconstruction of TPC data Heavy use of hardware accelerator (FPGA, GPU) Concluding Remarks, DAQ@LHC Workshop

Run-3 Systems and Upgrades (II) Atlas Run 3 system upgrades dictated by detector upgrades (LAr Calo) which necessitates an upgraded (local) DAQ system CMS has no major plans for Run 3 Atlas and CMS will have to cope with the challenges imposed by HL-LHC Surely LS3 is far away and no concrete plans are yet made Some ideas are around and it’s nice to brain storm Surely HL-LHC will have a major impact especially on the processing requirements and data rates of the experiments Concluding Remarks, DAQ@LHC Workshop

Hardware Trends (in industry) Presentations from Intel... Intel OmniPath an interesting development, especially if it comes directly out of the CPU Killer for Infiniband Intel integration of FPGAs into CPU chips might be interesting for certain applications Question is cost and impact on CPU performance (loss of cores, interference of memory accesses) Otherwise not a lot of information from Intel besides reduction of feature size Unclear what the additional gates are used for… …and Seagate (very nice presentation)… Disk capacity expected to increase at least until 2025 (120 TB per drive) Many technical challenges … and Arista Main message… Moore’s law atill and also holds for networking Deep buffering is not dead (yet) And Tapes will still be around for a long time 140 TB tape cartridge in the lab… Concluding Remarks, DAQ@LHC Workshop

Hardware Trends (in experiments) Strong trend towards PC-based components (PCI-Express cards) LHCb/Alice Tell40 Felix in ATLAS xTCA is popular in CMS, but future (especially µTCA) is not clear There is (maybe) also a trend towards common solutions for common problems. Alice/Atlas new RORC Tell40 (Alice and LHCb) We would prob. have used Felix, had we known about it and if it had implemented some features we need Actually fully commercial boards are (almost) usable I still hope that Atlas and CMS could, for post LS3 era, agree on a common readout board. Concluding Remarks, DAQ@LHC Workshop

Hardware Accelerators Very fashionable Likely to have its applications, but Is not the panacea for everything Very limited problem space Usual problem is Data transfers to/from accelerator Synchronisation between host/accelerator Do not forget to improve performance of CPU code Benefits both online and offline immediately There will (most probably) no accelerators on the grid/cloud… Concluding Remarks, DAQ@LHC Workshop

Thank you for attending! Finally Many thanks to David who was the (slave)driver and main organisational wizard to make this happen Thanks to Pierre for hosting the meetings for the organisers (including coffee and tea) Last, but not least, special thanks to Petya for the nitty-gritty organisation and setting up the agenda etc… I look forward to another workshop sometime BUT I do hope I will not have to give the final remarks! Thank you for attending! Concluding Remarks, DAQ@LHC Workshop