A Cloudy Future of What? Jeff Hollingsworth.

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A Cloudy Future of What? Jeff Hollingsworth

What is Cloud Computing (to HPC)? Map-Reduce/Hadoop? A specific programming library Perhaps interesting, but not revolutionary Virtual Machine based computing? Everyone brings along their environment Great control, but lots of work HPC using a bad network? We have had these for years Pay for service HPC? Real money is paid per node hour This is a big change

How we pay for HPC today Group/Dept Cluster HPC Center Commonality buy hardware on dedicated HW grant subsidies labor from other grants HPC Center buy big machine with special grant awards operating funds from hw grants or center base budget users apply for SU separate from money for people Commonality People and computer/system support are distinct Some costs of running machines are hidden

Implications of fee for service Uptime of machines would improve? If time to setup/upgrade machines cost owners real money Individual PIs could vote with dollars for preferred machine or technology trade computer time vs. human time Time to solution issues become clearer? development time might be valued more?

Cloud vs. Grid I don’t care what you call it! What does matters: I work in HPC not semantics What does matters: Is it a good idea for a given application People will pick it up if it is useful Does it help to get work done? What may limit clouds Can a PI buy node time today? Fear of the unknown model too different? Don’t know where code runs, data stored Use of large centers mitigates this concern