Existence of God (ctd) Lesson 3

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Existence of God (ctd) Lesson 3 Catechism Existence of God (ctd) Lesson 3

Psalm 96:1,3 Sing to the Lord with exultation. O sing a new song, all creation. Sing to the Lord and bless his name. Day after day with joy proclaim the wondrous deeds of his salvation. All gods revered by other nations are merely idols, man’s creation. Our God made all the heav’ns’ extent, and glory dwells within his tent. Before him kneel in adoration.

Proving the existence of God Maybe we should first ask: can we? How can I prove that God exists?

Proving the existence of God Philosophical approach: use reasoning, common starting point Presuppositional approach: use reasoning, different starting points Scientific approach use senses, common starting point Faith approach use senses, different starting points

Philosophical approach Common starting point: thought as a source of knowledge. Common methodology: the use of logic as a means to knowledge. Basic Arguments: For: I can think of God, therefore God exists Against: I can fantasize, therefore God does not exist Atheist Bertrand Russell Theist Alvin Plantinga .

Presuppositional Approach Using the presuppositions of the opposition, prove their position untenable (=not able to be held) Then come with your own presuppositions, and prove your position tenable (=able to be held) Conclusion: It is more likely that there is a God than that there is no God. Today this approach is popularized, among others, by Rev. Tim Keller.

Philosophy and Presuppositionalism Philosophy focuses on the truth of a proposition. Is it true or false? Presuppositionalism is more refined, as it focuses on the probability of a proposition. What is the likelihood of it being true or false? Which do you figure works better and why? Jot down some thoughts and we’ll discuss

Scientific Approach Common starting point: observations lead to truth Common methodology: use the senses Generally, scientists will seek to prove or disprove scientific data in Scripture. The most famous atheist scientists are Stephen Hawkins and Richard Dawkins Among theists is Dr. John Byl

Faith Approach There are two variants: Dualism: A distinction is made between the physical and the metaphysical. There are two truths: the observable and the spiritual. Blaise Pascal: Monism: The claims of philosophy and science are ignored. Truth is only known via divine revelation. Geo-centrism:

Scientific & Faith Approaches Evolutionism Theistic Evolution Intelligent Design Creationism Geo-centrism Flat Earth Society

Evidentialism and Fideism What flaws do you find with evidentialism? What flaws do you find with fideism? Jot down some thoughts and we’ll discuss.