ASEP, a way to analyse methods

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ASEP, a way to analyse methods Louis-Ferdinand PARDO FRANCE 2d meeting of the Informal Working Group ASEP 13-15 february 2017

ASEP, Analysis Usually, ASEP methods were analysis regarding real vehicle. By this way, concern vehicle are subject to doubt. Criteria given for the determination of the term “vehicle of concern” could be analyse using a simulated test. It allows a better understanding of the behavior of the ASEP methods regarding abnormal behavior.

ASEP, Criteria given for the determination of the term “vehicle of concern” From ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRB/2010/9 : Evidence of test beating and/or cycle detection. Unexpected vehicle noise behaviour based on the individual vehicle’s technical capability. Noise emission higher than absolute dB/r.p.m. slope, with different approaches for determining a reference point.

ASEP, Criteria given for the determination of the term “vehicle of concern” Validation of normal or abnormal behaviour of the vehicle noise in a control range Normal behaviour Abnormal behaviour : Evidence of test beating and/or cycle detection Abnormal behaviour : Unexpected vehicle noise behaviour based on the individual vehicle’s technical capability. Abnormal behaviour : Noise emission higher than absolute dB/r.p.m. slope

ASEP, Analysis The basis vehicle used for simulation has the following characteristics : The noise of the vehicle is described as the sum of the propulsion noise (Lprop) and the tyre noise ( Ltyre). Vehicle dynamic is base on real vehicle. Source contribution Vehicle dynamic ASEP point 1, 2, 3 and 4

ASEP, Analysis Normal behaviour is replaced by abnormal behaviour as following figures Abnormal behaviour : Unexpected vehicle noise behaviour based on the individual vehicle’s technical capability. Abnormal behaviour : Evidence of test beating and/or cycle detection Abnormal behaviour : Noise emission higher than absolute dB/r.p.m. slope Normal behaviour Assumptions : Modification has no impact on anchor point and vehicle dynamic Levels of engine abnormal noise are adjusted to provide non compliance to both Lurban and Slope methods

ASEP, Analysis Evidence of test beating and/or cycle detection. 5,6 dB Slope i = 4,4 dB/1000 rpm Slope i-1 = 3,5 dB/1000 rpm Slope = 4 dB/1000 rpm Slope i = 3 dB/1000 rpm Slope i-1 = 6,2 dB/1000 rpm 5,6 dB 5,5 dB

ASEP, Analysis Unexpected vehicle noise behaviour based on the individual vehicle’s technical capability. Slope i = 4,4 dB/1000 rpm Slope i-1 = 3,5 dB/1000 rpm Slope = 4 dB/1000 rpm Slope i = 4,4dB/1000 rpm Slope i-1 = 9,8 dB/1000 rpm 7,6 dB 7,5 dB

ASEP, Analysis Noise emission higher than absolute dB/r.p.m. slope Slope i = 4,4 dB/1000 rpm Slope i-1 = 3,5 dB/1000 rpm Slope = 4 dB/1000 rpm Slope i = 9,5 dB/1000 rpm Slope i-1 = 9,7 dB/1000 rpm 8,9 dB Slope = 10,5 dB/1000 rpm 8,9 dB

ASEP, Analysis The linear and normal vehicle of the basic vehicle is doubtless with slopes lower than 5 dB / 1000min-1. Current methods allow to detect the "abnormal" character of the sound emissions. The slope-assesment’s method seems to be more sensitive than the L urban-assesment ‘s method.

Conclusions Future method(s) shall allow to detect at least such "abnormal" character of the sound emissions : Evidence of test beating and/or cycle detection. Unexpected vehicle noise behaviour based on the individual vehicle’s technical capability. Noise emission higher than absolute dB/r.p.m. slope, with different approaches for determining a reference point. However, although answering the concerns, sensitiveness and the limits of methods shall be considered