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Transmitted by the expert from the Netherlands Informal Document No Transmitted by the expert from the Netherlands Informal Document No. GRB-53-22 53rd GRB, 15-17 February 2011 Agenda Item 3 OICA/ACEA COST-BENEFIT Study Comment by the Netherlands Expert

NL COST-BENEFITS Earlier research September 17, 2018

Top 10 most silent vehicles (source: informal doc 3 GRB feb 2000) Most silent car is a sports car 9,7 dB under the limit!

Relation between price and noise Loud vehicles are more expensive!

ACEA study COSTS – BENEFITS Reaction on TNO feasibility and effect study 5

1999(?) New method born Statements mr Ehinger (Porsche) If you want more silent traffic: you need this method. With this method industry will press tyre manufacturers to produce more silent tyres.

source abatement: let’s speed it up Calculations FIGE Eurocities, Brussels 2006 November 28 source abatement: let’s speed it up

ACEA study (expert opinion) The general approach of calculating benefits for noise is rather standard, and as can be expected every possibility is used to keep benefits low: Only WTP value: no estimate for health (DALY’s or addition of night noise reduction) 25€/dB: the 2001 figure should be corrected for inflation Threshold: is 50 dB, so again an underestimate. It is true that the 50-55 is more difficult to obtain from EU-data, but extrapolations from other data could be used. The effect of limit reduction is likely to effect the whole distribution, making the final effect larger (eg 5 dB lower limit only 2 dB fleet reduction?) 8

Conclusion Benefits All in all, the benefits are likely to be underestimated by a factor 2

ACEA study 2 (expert opinion) The ACEA costs calculation  had to addopt some very disputable assumptions to arrive at the astronomic figures for reducing noise. For example, the list of additional costs contain quite a number of measures which are already common. Actually leaving them out would cost more than introducing them. These costs then are thought to persist for 20 years. It is not easy to explain that the development of an absorbing layer continues to burden  the manufacturer for 20 years. 10

ACEA study 3 (expert opinion) In short: The undescriminate application of these assumptions lead to a caricature of CBA. 11

THANK YOU

Mercedes fight to fulfill the limits Effects of changes in the method Eurocities, Brussels 2006 November 28 source abatement: let’s speed it up