802.24 Vertical Applications TAG July 2017 Meeting Berlin, Germany Tim Godfrey, EPRI

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Agenda – 802.24-17-0016r1 Tim Godfrey, EPRI 802.24 Agenda - July 2017, Berlin, Germany 24-17-0016-01-0000 1 Monday PM2 session (Nizza) 1.1 Call session to order, present “Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings”, Quorum Godfrey 5 4:00 PM 1.2 Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda 4:05 PM 1.3 Approve May TAG minutes 24-17-0013-00-0000 4:10 PM 1.4 Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting 4:15 PM 1.5 Industry Connections and IEEE process for releasing/publishing white papers Godfrey / Goldberg 15 4:20 PM 1.6 802.24.1 Smart Grid Task Group 4:35 PM 1.7 ITU and regulatory items Godfrey/Lynch/Kennedy 10 1.8 IEEE Smart Grid Advisory Group 4:45 PM 1.9 Updating SGIP PAP2 Wireless Matrix 24-17-0004-03-sgtg 30 4:55 PM 1.10 Review of TSN Utility Use Cases 24-17-0006-03-sgtg 5:25 PM 1.11 Recess 5:55 PM 2 Tuesday PM2 session (Nizza) 2.1 Call to Order DiMinico 2.2 802.24.2 IoT Task Group business 2.3 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report Diab 20 2.4 Update from Automotive Tutorial Team 2.5 Review and plan IoT white paper development 45 4:50 PM 2.6 5:35 PM 3 Wednesday PM2 session (Meeting with 802.1 TSN) (ECC Room 4 - 2nd) 3.1 4:30 PM 3.2 Meet with 802.1 TSN on White Paper for Time Sensitive Networks for Grid Modernization Godfrey / Parsons 60 3.3 5:30 PM 4 Thursday AM2 session 802.24.2 (Estrel Hall C1) 4.1 10:30 AM 4.2 Review of P2413 draft DiMinico / Winkel 90 4.3 Adjourn TAG 12:00 PM Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/preparslides.ppt March 2015 IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee

Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings November 2016 doc.: ec-16-0149-00-00EC March 2017 IEEE 802 Participation Slide, v05 Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings Participation in any IEEE 802 meeting (Sponsor, Sponsor subgroup, Working Group, Working Group subgroup, etc.) is on an individual basis Participants in the IEEE standards development individual process shall act based on their qualifications and experience. (https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1) IEEE 802 Working Group membership is by individual; “Working Group members shall participate in the consensus process in a manner consistent with their professional expert opinion as individuals, and not as organizational representatives”. (subclause 4.2.1 “Establishment”, of the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures) Participants have an obligation to act and vote as an individual and not under the direction of any other individual or group. A Participant’s obligation to act and vote as an individual applies in all cases, regardless of any external commitments, agreements, contracts, or orders. Participants shall not direct the actions or votes of any other member of an IEEE 802 Working Group or retaliate against any other member for their actions or votes within IEEE 802 Working Group meetings, see https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1.3 and the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures, subclause 3.4.1 “Chair”, list item x. By participating in IEEE 802 meetings, you accept these requirements. If you do not agree to these policies then you shall not participate. (Latest revision of IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures: http://www.ieee802.org/devdocs.shtml) Slide 5 IEEE 802 Executive Committee Page 5 Dorothy Stanley, HP Enterprise 5

Administration Attendance take on IMAT Web page Mailing list Reciprocal rights for most WGs Web page http://www.ieee802.org/24 Mailing list stds-802-24@listserv.ieee.org 802-24-voters@listserv.ieee.org (voters list) Document archive http://mentor.ieee.org/802.24/documents IEEE 802 announcement reflector, stds-802-all@listserv.ieee.org Send email to listserv@listserv.ieee.org with no subject and with the following 2 lines appearing first in the body of the message Subscribe stds-802-all end Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Monday: 802.24 TAG Approve May minutes TAG Action Items from March: 24-17-0013-00-0000 TAG Action Items from March: Wael: Initiate Liaison with Wi-Fi Alliance IoT TG Tim– plan additional meeting slot for 24.2 in Berlin to discuss the P2413 draft. Follow up by email to 24.2 leadership: Invite automotive tutorial team to participate. Tim: Wireless Matrix: Coordinate with 802.11 to find spectral efficiency details (email exchange with Osama) Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Coordination with Industry Connections: Regularly examine (or liaison with) IC Committee to determine if we want to be involved with any existing IC activities. Plan of action: Check in by email regularly (before plenary meetings) on status with the IC Committee Activity in Berlin: Tuesday Evening 19:00 IEEE 802 Network Enhancements Industry Connections Activity Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Publicizing White Paper Releases Develop procedure for back end of white papers – coordinate with Jonathan Goldberg Action to take up in July – propose a draft process, and get agreement from IEEE Discussion: Share white papers directly with Jonathan. Request IEEE-SA Marketing, social media, Newsletters, Press Releases Standards association newsletter External press releases Emulate what 802.1, 802.3 are doing External publications, conferences, etc Liaison reports to WGs Include relevant details from external liaisons Expand liaisons to 802.1 and 802.3 Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Monday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey, EPRI

ITU and Radio Regulatory Items No regulatory items related to 802.24 currently known. Discussion Should there be new bands with new types of licensing models? Would be a good question for 802.18 to discuss. If new “unlicensed” bands were to be allocated, are there other models than what we have in ISM today? 802.24 could provide information on relationship between applications and use cases and spectrum rules as they emerge? Tim Godfrey, EPRI

IEEE Smart Grid Technical Activities Committee Since May I have joined the committee Chaired by Stefano Galli From Stefano: “Within the IEEE Smart Grid Technical Activities  Committee, we are writing a White paper on smart metering. The focus of this white paper will be on the deployed comms standards, from power line, to wireless cellular to meshed networking to whatever…” Focus so far has been aligning PES communications and ITU standards. Have not been engaged with IEEE 802 Possible liaison opportunity? Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Finalize PAP2 Wireless Matrix Current Status: Latest version 802.24-17-0004r6 SEPA/SGIP Study Group has been formed for Matrix update 802.24 will provide updated data for 802 standards Will reach out to other standards’ contributors for any updates Ultimately, will be forwarded to NIST as an updated addendum to NISTIR 7761 r1 Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Notes on Editing Y23: Need to determine spectral efficiency and formula Assigned to Osama Aboul Magd in 802.11 Need to verify peak vs channel (MAC) data rates for 802.15.4 and 802.22 columns Clint P, Apurva M Refer to NISTIR 7761 for methodology Tim Godfrey, EPRI

SEPA/SGIP update WG Membership currently Tim Godfrey EPRI Ron Cunningham AEP Doug Gray TCS Bill Godwin Duke Energy Matt Gilmore Itron Nada Golmie NIST Tim Godfrey, EPRI

TSN Utility Use Cases Preparation for Wednesday Joint Meeting Draft current version: 802.24-17-0006r3 Note: Wednesday meeting slot is with 802.1 TSN only No meeting in this room – Start there at 4:30pm - ECC Room 4 - 2nd Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Future Opportunities Tracking At plenary meetings – review upcoming needs and opportunities for 802.24 projects. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Future Opportunities Tracking (1) 802.24 white paper on IoT and P2413? Maybe more towards completion of P2413? Agnostic to underlying communications, but applicable to all 802 standards. Highlight the relationship between P2413 and 802 standards. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Future Opportunities Tracking (2) 802.15.12 ULI Eventually, we can explain how it relates to the rest of 802, and better integration. Well defined ways of integrating. Take this up when there is a draft 802.15.4s SMR – spectrum management resources Can 802.24 provide an input with respect to Smart Grid or IoT? IEC 65C WG 17 dealing with coexistence management and spectrum policy ETSI TCRRS reconfigurable radio systems ETSI TCERM WG 41 – defining a central coordination point to handle spectrum. Sharing and increasing coexistence and providing better QoS Coordinate with 802.22.3 Action Plan: Coordinate with ULI initiative 4s resource management is defined, but now how they are used White paper could cover how adaptation and resource management are accomplished. Including use of metrics for management. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Future Opportunities Tracking (3) Are there any new utility industry activities or organizations that could benefit from a liaison to 802.24? Useful Output: Identify the use cases that the standards serve, and provide them to the industry. That can then define who is an appropriate liaison Need to educate and inform liaisons to gather needs and requirements with respect to IEEE 802 projects. Identify the tools we have available, and present the available toolbox. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Future Opportunities Tracking (4) March 2017 Discussion on 802.15 IG DEP Explore collaboration with 802.3 Explore collaboration with 802.11 Consider Licensed spectrum. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Other Future Opportunities Monitor the LPWAN IG in 802.15 to see where it goes (and links to IETF) See where IG-DEP goes. Relationship of IG-DEP and TSN? Characterizing the underlying link – is it close to “predictable”? Applying new bands and channel plans Enabling applications in new regions Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Tuesday 802.24.2 IoT TG Note: Thursday slot for 802.24.2 review of P2413 has been moved back to this room, Nizza Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Tuesday: 802.24.2 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report Wael Diab IIC Liaison Report Any new liaison requests Request to explore liaison with Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Group. 802.24 will initiate the liaison request (Action Wael) Tim Godfrey, EPRI

802.24.2 P2413 Liaison Report Relationship to 24.2 IoT White Paper Ludwig Winkel (deferred to Thursday review of P2413) Relationship to 24.2 IoT White Paper Can be use to explain to the 802 community how 802 fits into the overall IoT architecture Tim Godfrey, EPRI

802.24.2 Review and plan IoT white paper development Chris DiMinico Discussion on IoT White Paper Draft Contributions towards IoT White Paper Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Wednesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG 802.1 TSN Joint Working Session Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Teleconference Review Teleconference notes: 802.24-17-0015r1 Actions Leads for developing text contributions: Janos Farkas – section on “Describe how TSN works” Maik Seewald – section on “Understand IEC 61850 activities and relationships” Karl Weber – section on DER and stabilizing networks with reactive power control. Rodney Cummings – “how TSN features make use of time sync protocols” Next Steps Tim will post these slides and outline document update (r3). Update to email reflector Post text contributions for 802.1 and 802.24 (mentor) Integrate contributions during July meeting. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Content for TSN white paper Version after Teleconference 802.24-17-0006r3 Version after 802.24 editing Monday 802.24-17-0006r7 IETF DETNET use cases document suggested by Ludwig Winkel https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases-12 Document contribution from Norm Finn http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/tsn-finn-tsn-detnet-whitepaper-0717-v00.pdf Document contribution from Rodney Cummings TBD Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Next Steps Discuss with Norm how to incorporate content from his document Review IETF DetNet use cases – incorporate as appropriate Coordination this week (Thursday afternoon or Friday mid day) 802.1 Closing plenary ends at 5-6. Plan teleconference before November plenary Avoid 1588 teleconferences Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Thursday 802.24.2 IoT TG P2413 Review Tim Godfrey, EPRI

Review of P2413 Draft Key points for 802.24 Relationships to IEEE 802 standards Opportunities for feedback to 802 WGs Opportunities for feedback to P2413 Impact on 802.24 IoT White Paper P2413 Liaison not available Re-schedule for future meeting P2413 Draft Availability for review Establish private area for 802.24 members Tim Godfrey, EPRI

802.24 TAG closing Action Items from this meeting Plans for September Today (afternoon) ad-hoc editing of TSN White Paper w/802.1 Plan TSN teleconference (October) Coordinate with Wael on Wi-Fi Alliance Liaison Review IoT MSGT Use Case Document (Henry Chiarelli) Plans for September 802.24.1 will meet for one slot Tim Godfrey will not be attending Ben Rolfe will Chair Any New Business? Tim Godfrey, EPRI