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Robin Ellison, Pinsent Masons & Cass Business School AMNT Willis Towers Watson 51 Lime Street London EC3M 7DQ 20 June 2018 The MNT and TPR: are there lessons from the Carillion story? Robin Ellison, Pinsent Masons & Cass Business School

Why does anyone care? Carillion was just another services company that went bust, so what. . ? . . .but Big (£5B turnover, 40,000 employees, lots of subcontractors) Government relevance (prisons, hospitals, schools) High profile (PFI and the Labour Party) Politics post BHS: pensions deficit of around £1B 12/11/2018

History of the end 2007: credit crunch: turnover dropped 20% overnight 2009: EAGA – feed-in tariffs cut: Lost £400M 2010+: Built largest mosque in world + World Cup stadiums in Middle East: couldn’t get paid £400M Restructuring/rights issue: conflict of interest of shorters ‘Hiding’ cash problems Banks were bastards Management failures (Aberdeen by-pass, Liverpool hospital) 12/11/2018

BUT collapse not inevitable Fresh financing available Good contracts as well Margins increased from 2% to 5% Profits doubled or trebled over 10 years 12/11/2018

Challenges to restructuring New FD Old FD didn’t leave everything well organised (maybe) Legacy issues (Carillion was collection of Wimpy, Tarmac, McAlpine, Mowlem etc) Timing Pension fund liability/PPF/TPR 12/11/2018

The pension scheme(s) 13 DB schemes 6 run as one Deficit grew over 10 years from £200 to £1B (or £2.6B on B/O) 16 trustees Advisers: Actuaries, investment consultants,, lawyers (x2), accountants, covenant advisers (x3) Internal support: Employer’s concerns: Cash Discount rate 12/11/2018

After the crash (1) July 2017 write down of £1.2B Initial conclusions no worries for pension fund! TPR intervention Specialist lawyers not up to it! Covenant advisers not up to it Paper deluge Micromanagment ‘Pro-active engagement’ Gang culture 12/11/2018

Just to note TPR before the crash Close monitoring for 10 years Carillion on TPR watch list Requests for risk evaluations (VAR) Attending meetings 12/11/2018

What can we learn? Keep file notes! Keep your notes for the file It costs a fortune Avoid blaming yourself or others Everything always goes wrong in the end Speak to the press (or not) Control process / Manage advisers Seek pragmatic advice Seek support (including PR) 12/11/2018

Pensions and politics. . . Politicians have a game plan The press can be your unreliable friend Believe in training TPR and Parliament are not your friends Write minutes with a view to posterity, not accuracy Use advice Parliament is theatre It’s never just pensions. . . What else. . .? 12/11/2018

Incidentally PPF appointment of new trustees/administrators W&P Select Committee procedure Pre collapse negotiations Cabinet Office Board discussions The blame game / black box Pencils 12/11/2018

Conclusions Governance is key – not for member outcomes, but for self-protection Hard to fight conventional wisdom TPR interfere, hard for them to help, and broadly incompetent and patronising Pensions include politics, finance, restructuring, press, human relations, client management Post insolvency back-up/PPF Creative opportunities/rebirth 12/11/2018

Meanwhile. . . 12/11/2018

For regulation management TIA. . . OITO/OIOO Regulators Code Penal policy Capitalism involves failures Members come first Tell your story 12/11/2018