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- Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov Think, Pair, Share "Listen: if everyone must suffer, in order to buy eternal harmony with their suffering, pray tell me what have children got to do with it? It’s quite incomprehensible why they should have to suffer, and why they should buy harmony with their suffering." - Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Learning Outcomes To be able to explain Hick’s redevelopment of Irenaeus’ theodicy.

Vale of soul making theodicy Hick's vale of soul making theodicy is a modern presentation of the Irenaean theodicy. This argues that both natural and moral evil are essential to "soul-making" so they have a good purpose. An all-loving God is therefore justified in making a world such as this in allowing humanity to perform evil acts. Irenaeus and Augustine both traced evil back to human free will, but where Augustine considered evil to be totally at odds with God's purpose. Irenaeus thought it had a valuable part to play within his plans for humans. Hick develops this theme into a fuller explanation of the importance and implications of evil for both God and humans. Hick's argument is known as the vale of soul making theodicy.

Central Features of Hick's Theodicy Instead of creating humans as morally perfect beings from the outset, God deliberately left them imperfect or "unfinished" to enable them to complete the process of creation themselves. Hick followed Irenaeus by arguing that humans are created as children of God in the image of God with the potential to achieve perfection in the future, when they will be in the likeness of God. If this likeness of God is to be achieved then Hick had to admit that this makes God partly responsible for the evil in the world. However he argues that God has good reason for allowing evil to stay and it doesn't threaten his perfectly loving nature. God needed to allow humans to develop themselves because virtues are formed as a result of a person overcoming temptations and challenges are "intrinsically more valuable than virtues created within him ready made without effort on his own part" - Hick Hick believed that if humans were not given freewill by God then their decisions and choices would always be a result of determinism and humans would be mere "robots" Evil is undeniably unpleasant, but evil is an essential part of the development of moral perfection, which Hick described as "soul-making"

God is at an epistemic distance Hick argues that God could have created humanity directly in his presence so that they were automatically aware of his limitless divine power but if God had done this then the gap between God and humanity would be so small that humans would have no freedom in relation to God. God has set this distance so humanity has awareness of God but not certainty. This is not a spacial distance but an epistemic distance. An epistemic distance means that there is a knowledge gap between God and humans. Humans are not born with the innate knowledge of God's existence and have to seek God through faith. Humans are able to exist as finite beings with the freedom of choice as to whether they acknowledge and worship, or turn away from God "Humanity is created at an epistemic distance from God in order to come freely to know and love their Maker” -Hick

5) ‘Original sin explains the existence of suffering’ Discuss. Evil? 2) Explain the concept of the inconsistent trid in your book. Use examples to support your points. Stretch yourself: What is Elie Wiesel’s play ‘God on Trial’ about? 1) Explain the meaning of these key terms: Seminally Privation Soul making Soul deciding Epistemic distance 4) Create a mind map for each theodicy including: Key words Quotes Strengths Weaknesses 3) Explain the views of each of the following philosophers in your books: Hume Mill Mackie D.Z Phillips Moltmann/Griffin Swinburne Stretch yourself: Plantinga 5) ‘Original sin explains the existence of suffering’ Discuss. (30 marks) Complete an essay plan for this question and stick it in the back of your books.

Think, pair, share A: Explain what Augustine meant by privation. B: Explain what Irenaeus meant by soul making. A: Give one criticism of Augustine's theodicy. B: Give one criticism of Irenaeus’ theodicy.