802.24 Vertical Applications TAG Sept 2018 Meeting Waikoloa, Hawaii, USA Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Agenda – 802.24-18-0019r0 802.24 Agenda - September 2018, Waikoloa, HI 24-18-0019-00-0000 1 Tuesday PM2 session KONA 3 1.1 Call session to order, present “Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings”, Quorum Godfrey 5 4:00 PM 1.2 Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda 4:05 PM 1.3 Approve minutes from prior TAG meeting 4:10 PM 1.4 Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting 4:15 PM 1.5 Liaison Updates 10 4:20 PM 1.6 802.24.1 Smart Grid Task Group 4:30 PM 1.7 ITU and regulatory items Godfrey/Holcomb 15 1.8 1.9 Discuss incoming comments from IEEE PES PSCC S6 Task Force regarding 802.24 contribution to "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication System" 30 4:45 PM 1.10 802.11ah and 802.15.4g (Sub 1-GHz coexistence (follow up from 802.19 SG) Godfrey/Rolfe 5:15 PM 1.11 Recess 5:45 PM 2 Wednesday PM2 session KONA 3 2.1 Call to Order 802.24.1 Task Group 2.2 802.24 contributions to Nendica Godfrey/Marks 20 2.3 Review editor comments and finalize Sub 1-GHz white paper for publication 2.4 Development and Editing of TSN White Paper 4:40 PM 2.5 2019 Planning 5:00 PM 2.6 Closing / Action Items / Adjourn 5:20 PM Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Administration Attendance take on IMAT Web page Mailing list Reciprocal rights for most WGs Web page http://www.ieee802.org/24 Mailing list stds-802-24@listserv.ieee.org 802-24-voters@listserv.ieee.org (voters list) Document archive http://mentor.ieee.org/802.24/documents IEEE 802 announcement reflector, stds-802-all@listserv.ieee.org Send email to listserv@listserv.ieee.org with no subject and with the following 2 lines appearing first in the body of the message Subscribe stds-802-all end Tim Godfrey, EPRI
802.24 TAG Approve July minutes TAG Action Items from July: Farrokh Khatibi will provide introduction to ATIS group for liaison on classifying IoT services, and their characteristics, and communication link requirements Establish Liaison with IEC SC25 for single pair ethernet. Chris will base on IEC SEG 8 request Call for Comments on TSN and SPE white papers Request Ludwig Winkel to provide P2413 Update in September Request IoT Use Cases from Wi-Fi Alliance IoT MSTG Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Liaison with IEC SEG8 Scope of SEG8: Liaison Request sent to SEG8 Assess, provide an overview and prioritization of the evolution of technical development and standardization in the field of communication technologies and architectures Liaison Request sent to SEG8 Next SEG 8 meeting Sept 25-26 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Tuesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey, EPRI
ITU and Radio Regulatory Items Update from 802.18 From May meeting Any action on FCC notice on 3.7 – 4.2 GHz? Sharing rules similar to CBRS? Implication of CBRS rules for Smart Grid FANs - topic for white paper? OFCOM – question on IoT – is it OK to not have special bands for IoT. In general, IoT is now handled in ISM and commercial licensed spectrum. Tim Godfrey, EPRI
CEN-CENELEC-ETSI Smart Grid Coordination Group Possible new activity in this group (TBD) Tim Godfrey, EPRI
IEEE PSCC TF S6 January 2018 Study Report – "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication Systems“ TF S6 is meeting this week in Minneapolis. Tim Godfrey, EPRI
802.15.4g and 802.11ah Coexistence 802.24 will develop a whitepaper/document for application-specific use cases. Identifying where each standard is most suitable, and how to make best use of other changes. Identify use cases where 802.15.4g is not sufficient and both are needed Could be choices of applications, channel guidelines, duty cycle, Avoid perception that 802 standards are unable to coexist Evaluate and describe potential application-level implications of delay/latency increases due to mutual interference If NS-3 simulation models can be shared, others in IEEE 802 could progress that work. MERL will share simulation models on Github. New modules for 11ah 15.4g Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Wednesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Nendica IEEE 802 network enhancements for the next decade Industry Connections Activity Initiation Document (ICAID) NENDICA develops reports on specific topics. Completed data centers. Next Topics Distributed Radio Access Networks Second work item: Flexible Factory IoT – apply TSN 802.24 activities: 802.24 can provide review and feedback on Flexible Factory IoT and Distributed Radio Access Networks Identify vertical applications that could be enabled by TSN features Identify vertical application that could be enabled if TSN features were present in wireless standards Can interfaces between wired and wireless map application-specific streams? Provide vertical application requirements (needs, underlying problems) to Nendica. Describing what is needed to define a common framework for TSN across wired and wireless standards. How do they fit together. Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Sub 1 GHz White Paper Review “802.24 TAG white paper_clean_TS.docx” Comments/Questions from IEEE editor received following July Meeting Final review then publish Tim Godfrey, EPRI
TSN White Paper Updated document 802.24-17-0006r15 uploaded to Mentor following July meeting. Call For Comments on Reflector Plan to finish in November Tim Godfrey, EPRI
2019 Planning A whitepaper/document for application-specific use cases of Sub 1GHz standards 802.15.4g and 802.11ah. Identifying where each standard is most suitable, and how to make best use of mechanisms proposed in 802.19 TG. Can this also include applying 802.15.4s in sub-1GHz spectrum? 802.24 white paper on IoT and P2413 P2413 entering Sponsor Ballot Update of first Smart Grid white paper to address latest amendments of 802.15.4 w, x, y Nendica – TBD provide contributions to Nendica reports or separate white paper? Tim Godfrey, EPRI
802.24 TAG closing Action Items from this meeting Any New Business? Tim Godfrey, EPRI