802.24 Vertical Applications TAG May 2018 Meeting Warsaw, Poland Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Agenda – 802.24-18-0012r0 Tim Godfrey, EPRI 802.24 Agenda - May 2018, Warsaw Poland 24-18-0012-00-0000 1 Tuesday PM2 session 1.1 Call session to order, present “Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings”, Quorum Godfrey 5 4:00 PM 1.2 Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda 4:05 PM 1.3 Approve March TAG minutes 4:10 PM 1.4 Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting 4:15 PM 1.5 802.24.1 Smart Grid Task Group 4:20 PM 1.6 ITU and regulatory items Godfrey/Holcomb 10 1.7 Liaison with IEEE PES PSCC S6 Task Force: "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication System" (response from S6 TF) 20 4:30 PM 1.8 Discuss IEC SEG8 Liaison Opportunity 4:50 PM 1.9 802.11ah and 802.15.4g (SUN) coexistence (follow up discussion from 802.19 AM2 IG) 5:10 PM 1.10 Recess 5:30 PM 2 Wednesday PM2 session 2.1 Call to Order 2.2 Discussion on 802.1CF OmniRan for vertical applications (March presentation) 2.3 Presentation and discussion on NENDICA (TBC) Marks 2.4 Review comments and feedback from IEEE editors on Sub 1-GHz white paper 15 4:40 PM 2.5 New project and activities review 4:55 PM 2.6 Development and Editing of TSN White Paper 30 2.7 802.24 TAG Closing and AOB 5:40 PM Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/preparslides.ppt IEEE 802 Executive Committee
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Administration Attendance take on IMAT Web page Mailing list Reciprocal rights for most WGs Web page http://www.ieee802.org/24 Mailing list stds-802-24@listserv.ieee.org 802-24-voters@listserv.ieee.org (voters list) Document archive http://mentor.ieee.org/802.24/documents IEEE 802 announcement reflector, stds-802-all@listserv.ieee.org Send email to listserv@listserv.ieee.org with no subject and with the following 2 lines appearing first in the body of the message Subscribe stds-802-all end Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Monday: 802.24 TAG Approve March minutes TAG Action Items from March: Unanimous consent TAG Action Items from March: None Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Liaison Pending liaison requests Plan: Request from 802.24.2 Establish Liaison with Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Market Segment Group. 802.24 will initiate the liaison request Draft a formal liaison statement with areas of collaboration and exchange. Point of contact: IoT Market Segment Task Group Challenges – information exchange will need to be cleared of default confidentiality of WFA documents. Plan: 802.24 to draft and approve liaison request at this meeting, to have it approved by WFA in their June Meeting. Request from 802.24.2 The subject of the information exchange is related to IoT Use Cases (some of which are smart grid related) Bi-directional sharing of information about use cases Approve draft liaison document tomorrow Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Tuesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey, EPRI
ITU and Radio Regulatory Items Update from 802.18 FCC NPRM Sect 7 – new rules. FCC notice on 3.7 – 4.2 GHz No IEEE 802 response at this time Would be shared – maybe similar to CBRS Other discussions on 6 GHz and 60 GHz IEEE European Spectrum Management Does this impact any utility-centric bands in Europe? Not band-specific. TBD whether there is any action here Tim Godfrey, EPRI
New Liaison Possibility Should we establish a liaison with IEC SEG8? Scope of SEG8: Assess, provide an overview and prioritization of the evolution of technical development and standardization in the field of communication technologies and architectures Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Discussion Opportunity to provide input on 802 standards? Establish a liaison? Develop a liaison request for providing two-way exchange of information and input for the IEC document. Tim Godfrey, EPRI
IEEE PSCC TF S6 January 2018 Study Report – "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication Systems“ TAG comments and contributions from March plenary meeting have been provided back to TF S6 chair TF S6 is meeting this week. No feedback received by meeting time Tim Godfrey, EPRI
802.15.4g and 802.11ah Coexistence Review AM2 IG session discussion in 802.19 and any follow up 802.19 IG will develop recommendations: (options) 1) changing one or both standards (new features in .11 S1G or .15.4 SUN) 2) 802.19 could create guidelines for coex (e.g. how to parameterize the standards) Also need to consider other Sub-1GHz band occupants. 3) 802.24 could create a whitepaper/document for application-specific use cases. Identifying where each standard is most suitable, and how to make best use of other changes. Could be choices of applications, channel guidelines, duty cycle, Avoid perception that 802 standards are unable to coexist Evaluate and describe potential application-level implications of delay/latency increases due to mutual interference Need comparable analysis in other regions and in other Sub-1GHz technologies If NS-3 simulation models can be shared, others in IEEE 802 could progress that work. Could be shared on 802.19 or 802.24 private areas 802.24 will review status in July Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Wednesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Liaison Requests Wi-Fi Alliance IEC SEG 8 Approved with unanimous consent Next steps 7.1.2 Sponsor subgroup public statements to other standards bodies a) Sponsor subgroup public statements to external standards bodies that are not "Information Only" should be copied to affected members of the Sponsor. Copy request to EC before sending Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Nendica IEEE 802 network enhancements for the next decade Industry Connections Activity Initiation Document (ICAID) Distributed Radio Access Networks 802.1 standard for intra-base station (TSN for fronthaul) (could it apply to 802.11?) Perhaps there are aspects of this TSN that can serve vertical applications? Flexible Factory IoT – apply TSN Possible 802.24 activities Identify vertical applications that could be enabled by TSN features Identify vertical application that could be enabled if TSN features were present in wireless standards Can interfaces between wired and wireless map application-specific streams? Provide vertical application requirements (needs, underlying problems) to Nendica. Nendica is linked with 802.1 - Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Sub 1 GHz White Paper Resolve comments prior to IEEE publication Review “802.24 TAG white paper_edits.docx” Continue addressing comments and questions Tim Godfrey, EPRI
TSN White Paper Review and editing of draft One contribution of update from Maik Seewald Updated document 802.24-17-0006r12 uploaded to Mentor following May meeting. Will announce comment collection to 802.24 and 802.1 TSN Teleconference with 802.1 planned for June 14, 10am EDT. Tim Godfrey, EPRI
802.24 TAG closing Action Items from this meeting Any New Business? Send liaison requests to EC reflector Any New Business? No Tim Godfrey, EPRI