What to do when Christian Discipleship training does not work

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What to do when Christian Discipleship training does not work By David Batty T501.07 3/2014

Do they want to change? Some are desperate to get out of the immediate crisis, but unwilling to commit to the discipline of change. --Bob Dunstan T501.07 3/2014

Part 1: Overview of causes why discipleship does not work God wants us to work through problems, not run from them. There may be temptations to sin put there by Satan. T501.07 3/2014

Counseling may be the key to understanding how to break these chains. There may be unresolved problems from the past still causing present damage. Counseling may be the key to understanding how to break these chains. 4. It may be consequences of my sinful behavior—past or present. Galatians 6:7-8 T501.07 3/2014

Person may have experienced God’s miraculous deliverance in the past, then relapsed and now the person finds they are trapped again. Jeremiah 21:2 T501.07 3/2014

Past Future T501.07 3/2014

Part 2: In-depth look at why discipleship does not work Rocks in the road Each Christian must learn basic life skills to function as a responsible Christian. This is the heart of Christian discipleship training. GSNC & PSNC T501.07 3/2014

Blame the wall & pit on others What can a person do when they come to a wall or a pit that they cannot get across, around or over? Blame the wall & pit on others From God’s point of view, these monsters are being kept alive by:_________ T501.07 3/2014

3. How do we kill the dragons & monsters? Renewing the mind Forgiveness Applying Biblical solutions to old problems T501.07 3/2014

The role of the counselor The relationship between discipleship training and counseling T501.07 3/2014

What if the walls and monsters are still here tomorrow? Satan is a liar T501.07 3/2014

What if the walls and monsters are still here tomorrow? The person may not understand or not be applying the discipleship principles of: Putting off the “old man” Putting on the “new man” Ephesians 4 & 5 Colossians 3 T501.07 3/2014

2 Peter 1:3-11 NIV His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. T501.07 3/2014

Questions T501.07 3/2014

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