Newton’s 3rd Law The 3rd law focuses on 2 interacting objects – different than either the 1st or 2nd law, which focus on one object. The new info we get.

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Newton’s 3rd Law The 3rd law focuses on 2 interacting objects – different than either the 1st or 2nd law, which focus on one object. The new info we get about forces from the 3rd Law is that they arise in pairs – always, no exceptions. There is no such thing as a singular force. Action / Reaction (A/R) Forces – terms used to refer to the pairs of forces described in the 3rd Law – they are always: equal in magnitude opposite in direction occur simultaneously act on 2 different objects – the interacting objects

How to ID the A/R forces in an interaction: 1st ID the 2 objects that are interacting as A & B where A is thought of as the instigator force 2nd state the action as: “A exerts force on B” then state the reaction as “B exerts force on A” Since A/R forces are equal & opposite to each other, do they cancel each other out? NO!! Because they act on 2 different objects. See how “on A” & “on B” (from above) indicates 2 different objects! Only forces acting on the same object can cancel each other’s effect on the object, so A/R forces never cancel each other out!!

What are the A/R forces if you push on a table? With how much force does it push on you? What if you push harder? What determines whether or not it will accelerate? [The 1st 3 questions are answered by the 3rd law, the last one is answered by the 1st/2nd laws…]

When you push on a table, Application of 3rd Law: you apply a force to the table, so it applies an = & oppo force back on you, where those A/R forces never cancel since they act on different objects. Application of the 1st/2nd Law: Whether or not the table is accelerated by your push on it depends on if your applied force to the table is enough to unbalance other forces on the table (friction) to create a net force, to cause acceleration. [Not!!: too much mass or too much inertia… Recall: any size Fnet, no matter how small, will make any size mass, no matter how big, accelerate!]

Consider a book at rest on the table. Are FN and W A/R forces? Both forces act on the same object – the book They don’t even have to be = & oppo – what if someone pushed down on the book? then FN ≠ W They don’t even have to act simultaneously – consider the book in free fall – there is no FN at all. So then what are the A/R force pairs? if we think of the FN as the force of the table pushing up on the book, then the reaction is the book pushing down on the table if we think of the W as the force of the Earth pulling down on the book, then the reaction is the book pulling up on the Earth NO!!

& Yes, if somehow it was a net force, If the book really pulls up on the Earth, does that make the Earth accelerate towards the book? No, because that’s only if the force of the book pulling up on the Earth creates a net force on the Earth – highly unlikely due to all the other interactions – walking, driving, objects falling or bouncing - taking place on the Earth’s surface at any point in time. & Yes, if somehow it was a net force, but consider, if these are equal forces applying to both objects, then their accelerations will vary by the inverse of their masses (Newton’s 2nd Law). mass of Earth is 6 x 1024 kg, but mass of book is only 1 kg, So Earth is billions and billions of times larger than our book, so the book’s a of about 10 m/s2, must be billions and billions of times larger than the Earth’s acceleration toward the book!!

Have you ever personally move a car around??

Have you ever heard of a strong man competition, where the guys do things like pull a 747 jumbo jet with a rope? How do they do this, when the jet is far more massive than them?

So again, In terms of overcoming your opponent, it’s not about who’s more massive or stronger, it’s about who can create a net force on the other one. The forces each applies to each other are = & oppo, but don’t cancel, since they act on different objects. But if one’s force on the other object can unbalance the other forces acting on that object, to create a net force on it, then it will cause that object to accelerate! This most likely happens when the “winner” has more friction than the “loser”.

Now let’s use Newton’s 3rd Law to explain – A: you push down & back on ground, R: the ground pushes up & forward on you – A: you push backward on the water, R: the water pushes forward on you – A: the tires push back against the road, R: the road pushes forward on the tires Notice friction can play a role here. Without friction, it can be impossible to initiate the action force, therefore no reaction force will exist either. walking swimming a moving car

Now let’s use Newton’s 3rd Law to explain the motion of a rocket ship – what are the A/R forces? Action: Rocket pushes fuel out the back Reaction: Fuel pushes rocket forward Nothing to do with the ground or surrounding air – if so, then how could it move in space??

How do inanimate objects exert a force? And how is the amount of force varied?? All materials have a degree of elasticity – a “springiness” – that allows them to stretch, if pulled upon; or compress, it pushed upon. But when a material’s internal, microscopic structure is out of its normal position, there are forces within that structure that resist the change, by pulling or pushing back. And the more the standard structure is affected, the greater the forces grow to resist the change.

Consider any example of 2 interacting objects where one of the objects gets accelerated by the other one’s push/pull. What if you push on someone who’s standing on a skateboard? At the moment when the acceleration begins, are they still pushing/pulling on you with as much force as you’re pushing/pulling on them (are the F’s still = & oppo) ? Sure – there are no exceptions to the 3rd law – forces always arise in equal and opposite pairs. It’s just that at some point, the force you apply could be big enough to create a net force on the other object and cause it to accelerate, at which time, it would be difficult, if not impossible for you to continue applying a stronger force.

What if you push on a wall made of paper? What if your tug-of-war match was with 1 little girl? So while you may be stronger than the other object involved (paper wall, little girl) you simply don’t get to use all your strength in a situation like that. Nothing can pull/push harder than the interacting object can pull/push back. And even when you’ve gotten an object to accelerate, you have not applied more force to it then it applied back on you – that would be impossible – it would violate N3rdL!

Other examples where we can try to explain how the 3rd law applies: What happens when you punch a wall or even a person across the jaw? Which way should you hold onto a fire hose? Who wins a tug-of-war match? Not necessarily the bigger, stronger team, but the one who can create a Fnet on the other. Whomever has more friction, has the best shot to win.