July 2009 Mesh Meeting Agenda doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 July 2009 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: 2009-07-15 Authors: Name Address Affiliation Phone Email Donald Eastlake 3rd 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA Stellar Switches +1-508-634-2066 d3e3e3@gmail.com Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group July 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. San Francisco, California 13-16 July, 2009 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd (Stellar Switches) <d3e3e3@gmail.com> Temporary Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 Hyatt Regency, San Francisco, California July 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Venue Hyatt Regency, San Francisco, California Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

General Flow of the TGs Meeting July 2009 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday (ad hoc) Administrivia Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Tuesday Administrivia and Status TGs Process Presentation Wednesday Security Presentations Thursday TGs Process Discussion Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Monday, 13 July 2009 08:00–11:00 (Pacific Concourse A) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Monday, 13 July 2009 08:00–11:00 (Pacific Concourse A) Call ad hoc meeting to Order at 08:10 The chair indicated that they would act as Secretary for this ad hoc meeting. Miscellaneous Announcements Manual attendance reminder Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Ad Hoc Meeting Agenda approved unanimously Status of TGs Draft 3.02 and Comment Resolutions “Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 147”, 11-09/471r10 11-09/664r0, Kazuyuki Sakoda (presented by chair) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Monday, 13 July 2009 08:00–11:00 (Pacific Concourse A) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Monday, 13 July 2009 08:00–11:00 (Pacific Concourse A) Comment Resolution and improvement of the Draft Discussion of and unanimous support to re-open CIDs 409, 415, 424, 585, 783, 773, and 1172. Subgroup interest poll: General: 0 MAC: 3 RFI: 2 Security: 5 The chair suggested dividing into MAC and Security subgroups but objections were raised that some security comment resolutions might depend on security presentations not yet made. There was agreement to split into two subgroups, one of which was MAC. Poll, should the second subgroup be RFI or Security? RFI: 3 Security: 0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Monday, 13 July 2009 08:00–11:00 (Pacific Concourse A) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Monday, 13 July 2009 08:00–11:00 (Pacific Concourse A) The task group divided into two subgroups as follows: RFI – Guenael Strutt coördinator MAC – Dee Denteneer coördinator The Task group meeting was called back together. Ad hoc meeting adjourned at 10:55 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 14 July 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Pacific Concourse M) Call Meeting to Order Selection of Temporary Secretary Dee Denteneer volunteered except for Thursday AM2 Miscellaneous Announcements Automated attendance reminder Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Meeting Agenda Approved unanimously Approval of Minutes: Montreal meeting minutes: 11-09/595r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Automated Attendance Recording July 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Automated Attendance Recording Go to http://newton/11/attendance (Documents: http://802server.events.ieee.org/ or 172.16.0.10 or just http://newton) Sign-in Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Miscellaneous Announcements July 2009 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at 802.11 WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the 802.11/.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

July 2009 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html Anti-Trust: http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf IEEE Ethics: http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html Letter of Assurance Form: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf IEEE Patent Committee: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html IEEE Patent Policy: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Patent FAQ: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform July 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Patent Related Links July 2009 All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Call for Potentially Essential Patents July 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

July 2009 TGs Chair Needed Donald Eastlake 3rd is no longer funded to attend/chair IEEE 802.11 and has resigned effective at the end of this meeting. Please contact Bruce Kraemer or Donald Eastlake if you want to Chair TGs or if you have any suggestions. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings July 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 14 July 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Pacific Concourse M) Approval of Minutes (continued) Teleconference minutes: May 27, 11-09/665r0, June 24, 11-09/701r0, July 8, 11-09/737r0 Approved unanimously Monday morning ad hoc minutes: 11-09/800r0 Status of TGs Draft 3.02 and Comment Resolutions “Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 147”, 11-09/471r10 11-09/664r0, Kazuyuki Sakoda (presented by the Chair) Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences “TGs Process, July”, 11-09/811r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 14 July 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Pacific Concourse M) Moved, That the IEEE 802.11 Working Group requests that IEEE make 802.11s Draft D3.02 available for public purchase. Mover: Javier Cardona Seconder: Guido Hiertz Yes: 8 No: 3 Abstain: 3 (Passes, Procedural) “MCF Issues”, Liwen Chu (STMicroelectronics), 11-09/0562r2 “TGs LB 147 Submission for Resolutions of Comments Related to HWMP PERR Element”, Harish Ramamurthy (Marvell), 11-09/791r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 14 July 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Pacific Concourse M) “Resolutions of the Remaining Power Management Comments”, Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia), 11-09/742r0 It was suggested to have a straw poll between options 1 and 2 on slide 12 but, after discussion, it was clear that there were several people in favor of option 2 and no one was in favor of option 1. (There was insufficient time to complete the above presentation and it was agreed to continue it at the PM1 session.) Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 14 July 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse M) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder (continued) “Resolutions of the Remaining Power Management Comments”, Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia), 11-09/742r0 Security Presentations “TGs Authenticated Encryption Function”, John Petro (Envieta), 11-09/770r0 Straw Poll: Should TGs stick with SIV or investigate replacing it with CCM? SIV: 10 CCM: 10 Abstain: 6 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 14 July 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse M) Security Presentations (continued) “Resolving SAE Comments”, Dan Harkins (Aruba), 11-09/754r0 Comment Resolution and improvement of the Draft Moved, to adopt the comment comment resolutions in submission 11-09/829r0 with Column X equal to “TGs-0713” or “MAC-7/12/2009” except CID 180. Mover: Dee Denteneer Seconder: Liwen Chu Yes: 8 No: 0 Abstain: 9 (passes > ¾) “Update Mesh Peering Protocols”, Meiyuan Zhao (Intel), 11-09/813r1 Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 14 July 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Pacific Concourse M) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder The Chair announced that the motion passed during the AM1 session today to ask IEEE to make 802.11s D3.02 available for sale was invalid. Only a specific draft that actually got 75% approval can be sold. For 802.11s, that would be D3.0. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 14 July 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Pacific Concourse M) Moved, To adopt the comment resolutions in 11-09/742r0, excluding CID 343, with “11-09/672r2” replaced by “11-09/617r2”. Mover: Dee Denteneer Seconder: Guido Hiertz Yes: 6 No: 0 Abstain: 3 (passes > ¾) “Mesh Compatible MLME.join & start”, Jarkko Kneckt, 11-09/820r1 Dee Denteneer announced that he had uploaded 11-09/837r1 and requests feedback. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 14 July 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Pacific Concourse M) Subgroup interest straw poll: Security: 3 RFI: 1 MAC: 4 General: 0 Divide into subgroups: MAC coördinated by Guido Hiertz Security coördinated by Meiyuan Zhao TGs was called back together. Recess until 13:30 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse M) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder The Chair announced that TGs has added a Thursday PM1 session in Pacific Concourse L. “TGs LB 147 Submission for Resolutions of Comments Related to HWMP PERR Element”, Harish Ramamurthy (Marvell), 11-09/791r3 “Mesh Formation Info”, Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia), 11-09/834r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse M) “LB 147 MCCA Comment Resolutions”, Dee Denteneer (Philips), 11-09/837r2 (word: 11-09/872r0) At the Chair’s suggestion, the group divided into Security and MAC subgroups as follows: MAC coördinated by Guido Hiertz Security coördinated by Meiyuan Zhao The task group recombined Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Wednesday, 15 July 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Wednesday, 15 July 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Pacific Concourse M) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder “Proxy Update Element Revision”, Michael Bahr (Siemens), 11-09/0862r0 (word: 11-09/857r0) “Link Metric Example and Mac Address Re-use”, Guenael Strutt (Motorola), 11-09/873r0 “Traffic Class Control in MBSS, Meiyuan Zhao (Intel), 11-09/876r2 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Motion Add one comment to 11-09/0471r10 comment spreadsheet Mesh needs to figure out how to deal with traffic classes. Each needs a replay counter for protection. In infrastructure mode, it's dictated by AP. But in mesh, either need to define it as mesh-wide configuration, or let mesh STAs to negotiate in pairwise basis. Recommended change: The former makes more sense. Need submission to implement the former approach. Adopted by Unanimous Consent.

Wednesday, 15 July 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Wednesday, 15 July 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Pacific Concourse M) Moved, To adopt document 11-09/0857r0 (“Proxy Update element revision”) as resolution to comments with CIDs 879, 914, 1090, all with counter and update the comment resolution spreadsheet accordingly. Mover: Michael Bahr Seconder: Meiyuan Zhao Yes: 9 No: 0 Abstain: 1 (passes > ¾) The Chair reminded people that there had been a number of submissions of comment resolutions posted for them to review and may be more. It is good to post a message to the mailing list, as Kazuyuki Sakoda and others have done, to get people’s attention. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Wednesday, 15 July 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Pacific Concourse M) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Wednesday, 15 July 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Pacific Concourse M) At the Chair’s suggestion, the group divided into Security and MAC subgroups to work on comment resolution: MAC coördinated by Guido Hiertz Security coördinated by Meiyuan Zhao The task group recombined. Recess until 10:30 Thursday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Thursday, 16 July 2008 10:30 – 12:30 (Pacific Concourse I) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Thursday, 16 July 2008 10:30 – 12:30 (Pacific Concourse I) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Motion, 11-09/837r2 (word: 11-09/872r0) Motion, 11-09/873 Motions related to submissons and general comment resolutions from Kazuyuki Sakoda. Comment Resolution and improvement of the Draft Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Pending Presentations July 2009 Pending Presentations Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Thursday, 16 July 2008 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse L) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Thursday, 16 July 2008 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse L) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Motion, 11-09/791r4 Motion, 11-09/754r3 Motion, 11-09/820r2 Motion, 11-09/834r1 Comment Resolution and improvement of the Draft Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Pacific Concourse I) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Pacific Concourse I) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences “TGs Process, July”, 11-09/811r1 Motion: To direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

[Reference Information] July 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 [Reference Information] Updated PAR at http://standards.ieee.org/board/nes/projects/802-11s.pdf. Original PAR for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheet: 11-09/471r10: Resolution of Letter Ballot #147 Comments TGs Technical Editors: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03…D3.0… Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 and D2.02 Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 through D2.0 W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 through D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

[Earlier Meeting Minutes] July 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r9 July 2009 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes May 2009, Montreal, Quebec, 11-09/595r0 March 2009, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-09/312r0 January 2009, Los Angeles, California, 11-09/110r0 November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0 September 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0 September 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0 July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0 May 2008, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-08/580r2 May 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Santa Clara, California, 11-08/539r0 March 2008, Orlando, Florida, 11-08/424r0 January 2008, Taipei, Taiwan, 11-08/170r2 November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1 Recent Teleconference Minutes May 6, 11-09/521r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches