January 2011 Mesh Meeting Agenda doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 January 2011 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: 2011-01-17 Authors: Name Address Affiliation Phone Email Dee Denteneer HTC 37; 5656 AE Eindhoven; The Netherlands Philips +31 40 27 49743 Dee.Denteneer@philips.com Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group January 2011 doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Los Angeles, CA January 17-20, 2011 Chair: Dee Denteneer (Philips) Vice Chair: Guido Hiertz (Philips) Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) Secretary: Guenael Strutt (Powerwave Technologies) Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
General Flow of the TGs Meeting January 2011 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday Administrivia Resolution of Comments & discussion of professional editing process Tuesday Wednesday Thursday TGs Process Discussion Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Dee Denteneer; Philips
Miscellaneous Announcements January 2011 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at 802.11 WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the 802.11/.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group. Dee Denteneer; Philips
January 2011 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html Anti-Trust: http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf IEEE Ethics: http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html Letter of Assurance Form: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf IEEE Patent Committee: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html IEEE Patent Policy: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Patent FAQ: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf Dee Denteneer; Philips
Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform January 2011 doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
Patent Related Links January 2011 All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Dee Denteneer; Philips
Call for Potentially Essential Patents January 2011 doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings January 2011 doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
Automated Attendance Recording January 2011 doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Automated Attendance Recording Go to http://newton/11/attendance https://murphy.events.ieee.org/imat/ (Documents: http://802server.events.ieee.org/ or 172.16.0.10 or just http://newton) Sign-in Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
Presentation queue Dan Harkins presented 11-11/57r0, security January 2011 Presentation queue Dan Harkins presented 11-11/57r0, security Dee Denteneer; Philips
Monday, 17 January 2011 13:30-15:30 Secretary selection doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Monday, 17 January 2011 13:30-15:30 Secretary selection Call Meeting to Order Miscellaneous Announcements Automated attendance reminder Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Meeting Agenda Approval of Minutes: Dallas meeting minutes: 11-10/1323r0 Munich ad hoc meeting minutes: 11-11/0005r0 Teleconference minutes: November 24: 11-10/1403r0: December 9: 11-11/0004r0 January 12: 11-11/0086r0 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
Monday, 17 January 2011 13:30-15:30 Get on 1 page Presentations doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Monday, 17 January 2011 13:30-15:30 Get on 1 page Status update: First recirculation of Sponsor Ballot Status update rebasing on REVmb 6.0 Tutorial Ad hoc dates Presentations Dee Denteneer presented 11-11/107r0: TGs timelines discussion Kazuyuki Sakoda presented 11-11/101r0, M-BS comments Resolution of Comments Recess until Monday 19:30 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
Monday, 17January 2011 19:30-21:30 Call Meeting to Order doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Monday, 17January 2011 19:30-21:30 Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Discussion: Sequencing the Amendments Resolution of Comments Recess until Tuesday 8:00 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
Tuesday, 18 January 2011 8:00-10:00 Call Meeting to Order doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Tuesday, 18 January 2011 8:00-10:00 Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Contributions: Ivan Pustogarov (IITP RAS) GCR for mesh slides, 11-11/0065r3 Kazuyuki Sakoda presented 11-11/101r1, M-BS comments Resolution of Comments Recess until Tuesday 10:30 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
Tuesday, 18 January 2011 10:30-12:30 Call Meeting to Order doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Tuesday, 18 January 2011 10:30-12:30 Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Contributions: Dan Harkins: 11-11/0027r1, security comments Resolution of Comments Recess until Wednesday 16:00 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
Wednesday, 19 January 2011 16:00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Wednesday, 19 January 2011 16:00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Presentations Jarkko Kneckt: 11-11/105r0 and 11-11/128r0 Dee Denteneer: 11-11-172r0: MCCAOP Advertisement motivation discussion Guido Hiertz: 11-11/162r0 Resolutions to frame format related comments Kazuyuki Sakoda: 11-11/101r2, M-BS comment resolution overview Overview comment resolution Tutorial planning Resolution of Comments Recess until Thursday 8:00 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
January 2011 Straw poll Do you agree with the approach to resolve the Advertisements comments, as sketched in 11-11/172, by means of the advertisement overview element. Yes: 6 No: 0 Abstain: 2 Dee Denteneer; Philips
Thursday, 20 January 2011 8:00-10:00 (TBD) doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Thursday, 20 January 2011 8:00-10:00 (TBD) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments Recess until 10:30 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
Thursday, 20 January 2011 10:30-12:30 (TBD) doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Thursday, 20 January 2011 10:30-12:30 (TBD) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments Recess until 16:00 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
January 2011 Security Motion 40, Moved to accept the resolutions in document 11-11-147r0 “1st-recirt-security-comment-spreadsheet “ to the comments identified by means of a label “x” in column “Resolution Status” and to adopt the text changes in 11-11/57r1 “Resolution of Security Comments from 1st Sponsor Ballot Recirculation”, and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A- Dee Denteneer; Philips
January 2011 MCCA Motion 41, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/180r1, “MCCA comments text”, to resolve the CIDs, identified in document 11-11/179r1 by means of label “MCCA1801” in columnY, as indicated in this spreadsheet, and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A- Dee Denteneer; Philips
January 2011 Frame format Motion 42, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/162r1, “Resolutions to frame format related comments”, to resolve the comments in CID 1283, 1284, 1357, 1285, 1356 with resolutions as given in 11-11/163r0, and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A- Dee Denteneer; Philips
January 2011 Power Management Motion 43, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/128r1, “Text for 802.11s M-PM Comment Resolutions ”, to resolve the comments in document 11-11/105r1 with Issue Id “M-PM” with resolutions as given in this spreadsheet, and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A- Dee Denteneer; Philips
Beaconing and synchronization January 2011 Beaconing and synchronization Motion 44, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/100r2, “M-BS comment resolution text”, to resolve the comments in document 11-11/99r2 with labels “Kaz20110112”, “Mon”, or “Tue”, with resolutions as given in this spreadsheet, and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A- Dee Denteneer; Philips
January 2011 G-emergency Motion 45, Moved to accept the resolutions to the CIDs in 11-11/187r0, “ES comment resolution”, and direct the Editor to incorporate the suggested resolutions into the Draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A- Dee Denteneer; Philips
January 2011 MIB Motion 46, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/182r0, “Resolutions to conflicts in the IEEE 802.11s MIB” and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A- Dee Denteneer; Philips
January 2011 Editorial Motion 47, Moved to accept the proposed resolutions to the CIDs in document 11-10/0027r3 identified by column Y = "Ed20110112" or column Y = "Ed20110120" and direct the editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A- Dee Denteneer; Philips
January 2011 Link metric reporting Motion 48, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/183r1, “Link Metric Reporting Clean-up” to resolve CIDs 1053, 1289, 1319, 1320 with resolution code and resolution notes a provided in the document, and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A- Dee Denteneer; Philips
January 2011 RFI proxy-1 Motion 49, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/189r0, "RFI Proxy Comment Resolutions Text", to resolve the comments identified in document 11-11/188r0 with label "11-proxy" with resolutions as given in this spreadsheet and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A- Dee Denteneer; Philips
January 2011 RFI proxy-2 Motion 50, Moved to accept the resolutions given in document 11-11/188r0 "RFI Proxy Comment Resolutions Spreadsheet" for comments identified by Issue ID "R-Proxy" and label "RFI-PXU" in column Y and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A- Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer; Philips Congestion control Michael Bahr: 11-11/166r0: performance results for extended congestion notification element Motion 51, Moved to close CID 1314 with Resolution Code “Disagree” and Resolution Note “In document 11-11/116r0 “Performance Results for Extended Congestion Notification IE” it is shown that this added IE can help to improve the performance” Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A- January 2011 Dee Denteneer; Philips
January 2011 doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:00-18:00 Process: ad hoc will be 2011-02-07 until 2011 02-09 Can then do voting on Thursday 10 february And recirculate starting E.g. Monday 14 february Telcons: thursdays, Motion, moved to schedule TGs teleconferences on thursdays from february 4 until March 31 at 10:00 ET for a maximum duration of 90 minutes. Mover:, Seconder: Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
Dee Denteneer; Philips Synchronization Strawpoll: Which option do you prefer for framework? #1: “synchronization protocol” as defined currently # 2: “synchronization mode” # 3: “synchronization method” Which option do you prefer for “Neighbor Offset Protocol”? #1: “Neighbor Offset Protocol”, as defined currently #2: “Neighbor Offset Synchronization” #3: “Neighbor Offset” January 2011 Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer; Philips BT element extensions Strawpoll: Which option do you prefer? Change the precision of the unit : 256usec TU Change the length of “Neighbor TBTT subfield” 2octets 3octets Insert a new field to signal the precision of the unit: The precision is defined by the setting of the new field. (i.e., 256 usec or TU) Anything else? January 2011 Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer; Philips Clock drift What is the most preferable way to go? Leave the clock drift to outside the scope. Define the clock drift compensation to be a part of synchronization , as defined currently. Define the clock drift compensation independently in power save, MCCA, and MBCA. January 2011 Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer; Philips Tutorial-brainstorm Introduction Interworking MAC RFI Security January 2011 Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer; Philips January 2010 doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/0036r0 Thursday, 20 January Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. December 2010 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
[Reference Information] January 2011 doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 [Reference Information] Updated PAR at http://standards.ieee.org/board/nes/projects/802-11s.pdf. Original PAR for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheet: 11-10/ 32r3 Resolution of Letter Ballot #159 Comments Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
[Reference Information] January 2011 doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 [Reference Information] TGs Chairmen Dee Denteneer, Guido R. Hiertz (temporary Chairman), November 2009 Stuart J. Kerry (temporary Chairman), June 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, May 2004 – July 2009 TGs Technical Editors: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03 … D3.0 … Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 & D2.02 Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 … D2.0 W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 … D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
[Earlier Meeting Minutes] January 2011 doc.: IEEE P802.11-10/1034r0 January 2011 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes January 2010, Los Angeles, CA, 11-10/102r0 November 2009, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-09/1223/0 November 2009, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-09/1016r0 July 2009, San Francisco, California, 11-09/902r0 May 2009, Montreal, Quebec, 11-09/595r0 March 2009, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-09/312r0 January 2009, Los Angeles, California, 11-09/110r0 November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0 November 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0 November 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0 July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips