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May 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 May 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: 2008-05-12 Authors: Name Address Affiliations Phone Email Donald Eastlake 3rd 111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA 01752 USA Motorola +1-508-786-7554 Donald.Eastlake@motorola.com Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group May 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Jacksonville, Florida 12-15 May, 2008 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd., Motorola Donald.Eastlake@motorola.com +1-508-786-7554 Technical Editor: Anthony Maida, 3ETI Secretary: Stephen Rayment, BelAir Networks Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 The Hyatt Regency Jacksonville Riverfront May 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Venue The Hyatt Regency Jacksonville Riverfront Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

General Flow of the TGs Meeting May 2008 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday Administrivia and Status TGs Process Presentation Election of TG Officers Resolution of Comments Tuesday Wednesday Security Presentations Thursday TGs Process Discussion Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Other Technical Presentations Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room Call meeting to Order Miscellaneous Announcements Selection of Temporary Secretary: Anthony Maida (EFJ, Inc.) Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Agenda approved my unanimous consent Minutes as listed below approved by unanimous consent: March 2008 Meeting Minutes, 11-08/424r0 May 2008 Santa Clara ad hoc Meeting Minutes, 11-08/539r0 Teleconference Minutes: 16, 30 April 2008, 11-08/463r1, 11-08/494r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Miscellaneous Announcements May 2008 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at 802.11 WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the 802.11/.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working groups Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

May 2008 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html Anti-Trust: http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf IEEE Ethics: http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html Letter of Assurance Form: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf IEEE Patent Committee: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html IEEE Patent Policy: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Patent FAQ: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform May 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Patent Related Links May 2008 All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Call for Potentially Essential Patents May 2008 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings May 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

May 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Affiliation It is defined in the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, 5.2.1.5 as: “An individual is deemed “affiliated” with any individual or entity that has been, or will be, financially or materially supporting that individual’s participation in a particular IEEE standards activity. This includes, but is not limited to, his or her employer and any individual or entity that has or will have, either directly or indirectly, requested, paid for, or otherwise sponsored his or her participation. Revision: Feb 2006 Standards Board Bylaw 5.2.1.1 Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open to all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Automated Attendance Recording May 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Automated Attendance Recording Go to http://newton/11/attendance (Documents: http://802server.events.ieee.org/ or 172.16.0.10 or just http://newton) Sign-in Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything! Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

802.11 P&P – TG Elections (11-07-0360r4) May 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 802.11 P&P – TG Elections (11-07-0360r4) 3.2 Task Group Chair The TG Chair shall be appointed by the WG Chair and confirmed by a WG majority approval. The TG Chair is re-affirmed every 2 years: one session after the WG Chair is elected. The TG Chair is required to confirm that the function of secretary is performed for each TG meeting. TG meetings are not allowed to function without a secretary. 3.3 Task Group Vice-Chair TG Vice-Chair is elected by a WG majority approval.  The TG Vice-Chair is reaffirmed every 2 years; one session after the WG Chair is elected. 3.4 Task Group Secretary The TG Secretary shall be appointed by the TG Chair and confirmed by a TG motion that is approved with a minimum 50% majority. The TG Secretary is re-affirmed every 2 years; one session after the WG Chair is elected. The minutes of meetings taken by the Secretary (or designee) are to be provided to the TG Chair in time to be available to the WG Chair for publication one week after close of the session. The minutes of the meeting are to include documents produced by the voting process and document list. See IEEE® Standards Companion for details on content and form of minutes. 3.5 Task Group Technical Editor The TG Technical Editor shall be appointed by the TG Chair and confirmed by a TG majority approval. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room Existing Task Group Officers Chair: Donald Eastlake 3rd (Motorola) Editor: Vacant Avinash Joshi (Motorola) filling in on a temporary basis Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks) Task Group Officer nominations Recommendation of Task Group Chair to 802.11 WG: Donald Eastlake 3rd (Motorola) Election of Task Group Technical Editor: Anthony Maida (EFJ Inc.) Election of Task Group Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room Moved, to re-affirm or elect the following Officers and to adopt the recommendation below for TGs chair: Secretary, re-affirm: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks) Technical Editor, elect: Anthony Maida (3ETI) TGs Chair, Recommendation to WG: Donald Eastlake 3rd (Motorola) Moved: Jan Kruys Second: Mathilde Benveniste Yes: 20 No: 0 Abstain: 2 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot Draft D2.0 “Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 126”, 11-08/493r7 The substance of comments 374 and 763 are not to be discussed. Presentation and Discussion on Process “TGs Process, May”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/570r0 Moved, That TGs will use TGs Draft D2.0 as a baseline and consider for resolution the comments submitted in 802.11 LB#126. Moved: Guenael Strutt Seconded: Jesse Walker Yes: 20 No: 0 Abstain: 0 (passes) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room Resolution of Comments Straw Poll on areas of interest: MAC: 5 RFI: 4 Security: 8 General: 3 Divide into subgroups: Security, Jesse Walker coordinator RFI, Guenael Strutt coordinator MAC, Michelle Gong coordinator Recombine and Recess Until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 12 May 2008 13:30-15:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Monday, 12 May 2008 13:30-15:30, Grand 8 Room Call meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder “Presence Information in Large Mesh Networks”, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos (MIT), 11-08/561r0 “MDA Enhancements”, Jarkko Knecht (Nokia), 11-08/577r0 Straw Poll: Should power save and MDA be made interoperable along the lines described in 11-08/577r0? Yes: 5 No: 0 Abstain: 16 Straw Poll: Would a presence protocol like that in 11-08/561r0 be a useful addition to mesh? Yes: 7 No: 6 Abstain: 12 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 12 May 2008 13:30-15:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Monday, 12 May 2008 13:30-15:30, Grand 8 Room Divide into subgroups: Security, Jesse Walker coordinator RFI, Guenael Strutt coordinator MAC, Michelle Gong coordinator Recombine and Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 12 May 2008 19:30-21:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Monday, 12 May 2008 19:30-21:30, Grand 8 Room Call meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Divide into subgroups: Security, Tony Braskich coordinator RFI, Guenael Strutt coordinator MAC, Michelle Gong coordinator Recombine and Recess until 10:30 Tuesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 13 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Tuesday, 13 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Note: The substance of CID 1065, like CIDs 374 and 763, will not be discussed. “Forwarding in PS mesh”, Jarkko Knecht (Nokia), 11-08/578r0 Straw Poll: Is there value in Power Save aware Routing? Yes: 9 No: 1 Abstain: 11 Straw Poll: Should TGs provide means to communicate expected traffic characteristics? Yes: 2 No: 0 Abstain: 20 Straw Poll: Should TGs provide rules or guidance for how PS MPs provide forwarding? Yes: 9 No: 3 Abstain: 11 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 13 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Tuesday, 13 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room “Scheduled service periods in wireless mesh”, Mathilde Benveniste (Avaya), 11-08/619r0 Straw Poll: Is anything in 11-08/619r0 of interest to you? Yes: 7 No: 1 Abstain: 15 “Refining the Security Architecture”, Tony Braskich (Motorola), 11-08/617r0. Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:30 – 15:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:30 – 15:30, Grand 8 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Straw Poll on areas of interest: MAC: 6 RFI: 2 Security: 8 General: 1 Divide into sub groups: MAC – Guido Hiertz coordinator RFI – Guenael Strutt & Jan Kruys Security – Tony Braskich coordinator Recombine and Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:00 – 18:00, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:00 – 18:00, Grand 8 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Divide into sub groups: MAC – Guido Hiertz coordinator RFI – Guenael Strutt & Jan Kruys Security – Tony Braskich coordinator Redombine and Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:30 – 21:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:30 – 21:30, Grand 8 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolve Comments Recess until 13:30 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Pending Presentations May 2008 Pending Presentations MAC, Mathilde Benveniste Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Wednesday, 14 May 2008 13:30 – 15:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Wednesday, 14 May 2008 13:30 – 15:30, Grand 8 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Security Presentations “MSA Key Hierarchy Analysis and Alternatives”, Jesse Walker (Intel), 11-08/501 “Protocol Coexistence Issue in MSA Subsequent Authentication”, Jesse Walker (Intel), 11-08/502 “Authentication and Key Management of MP with multiple radios”, Amy Zhang (Huawei), 11-08/317r2 (11-08/tbd Word) Dan Harkins Resolve Comments Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:00 – 18:00, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:00 – 18:00, Grand 8 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolve Comments Recess until 08:00 Thursday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Thursday, 15 May 2008 08:00 – 10:00, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Thursday, 15 May 2008 08:00 – 10:00, Grand 8 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance recording reminder Resolve Comments Recess until 10:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Thursday, 15 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Thursday, 15 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance recording reminder Resolve Comments Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Thursday, 15 May 2008 13:30 – 15:30, Grand 8 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 Thursday, 15 May 2008 13:30 – 15:30, Grand 8 Room Call Meeting to Order Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences “TGs Process, May”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/570r1 Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. Mover: Seconder: Yes: No: Abstain: Other Technical Presentations Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

[Reference Information] May 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 [Reference Information] Updated PAR at http://standards.ieee.org/board/nes/projects/802-11s.pdf. Original PAR for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheets: 11-08/493r7: Resolution of Letter Ballot 126 Comments (D2.0) 11-07/23r55: Resolution of comments received during IEEE 802.11 Letter Ballot 93 (D1.0) TGs Technical Editors Anthony Maida (RJF Inc.), Drafts 2.01 + Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 through D2.0 W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 through D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

[Earlier Meeting Minutes] May 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r8 May 2008 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes May 2008, ad hoc meeting, Santa Clara, California, 11-08/539r0 March 2008, Orlando, Florida, 11-08/424r0 January 2008, Taipei, Taiwan, 11-08/170r2 November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1 September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2495r0 September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0 July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11-07/2277r0 June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/2009r0 May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11-07/746r0 April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11-07/559r1 March 2007, Orlando, Florida, 11-07/413r0 February 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/240r0 Recent Teleconference Minutes 21 November 2007, 11-07/2934r0 9 January 2008, 11-08/41r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola