Report of TGv – May 2005 DATE: May 205 Author(s) January 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/xxxx May 2005 Report of TGv – May 2005 DATE: May 205 Author(s) Name Company Address Phone email Pat R. Calhoun Cisco Systems, Inc 170 West Tasman Dr., San Jose, CA 95134 408 853 5269 pcalhoun@cisco.com Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE 802.11. It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE 802.11. Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures <http:// ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair <stuart.kerry@philips.com> as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE 802.11 Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at < patcom@ieee.org> Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Pat R Calhoun, Airespace
Abstract Report of the meeting of TGv at the May 2005 session. January 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/xxxx May 2005 Abstract Report of the meeting of TGv at the May 2005 session. Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Pat R Calhoun, Airespace
Goals for May 2005 Elect/Appoint Secretary Elect/Appoint Technical Editor Get closure on some TGv requirements TGv Use Case Scenarios Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Submissions Submissions May 2005 11-05/0224r2 – TGv Requirements – Pat Calhoun V7-11-05/xxxxr0 – Location requirements– Joe Decuir V8-11-05/xxxxr0 – 802.1 RF Management PAR – Tom Seip 11-05/0369r0 – Secure WNM Requirements – Emily Qi V1-11-05/xxxxr0 – Dynamic Channel Selection – Marian Rudolf V10-11-05/xxxxr0 – Proposal for Standardization of WLAN NMS Interface – Ilkka Talvitie V9-11-05/xxxxr0 – Different Uses – Joe Epstein V3-11-05/xxxxr0 – Power-saving – Marian Rudolf V14-11-05/0000r0 – Firmware Update – John Klein V12-11-05/xxxxr0 - Load Balancing– Joe Epstein v5-11-05-xxx5-00-000v-Load-Balancing-Kwak-Rudolf – Marian Rudolf 11-05/0370r0 – BSS Load Balancing Requirements – Emily Qi V13-11-05/xxxxr0Tx Power– Joe Epstein V2-11-05/xxxxr0 – Deferral Management – Marian Rudolf V11-11-05/xxxxr0 - Inter AP – Joe Epstein V4-11-05/xxxxr0 – 11v control framework – Marian Rudolf Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Proposed Agenda Review IEEE patent policy Approve agenda May 2005 Review IEEE patent policy Approve agenda Group status update Approve minutes from last meeting Attendance Update Call for permanent secretary – appoint/confirm Call for technical editor – appoint/confirm Call for presentations 11-05/0348r1 – Talvitie V7-11-05/xxxxr0 - Decuir V1-11-05/xxxxr0 – Rudolf V2-11-05/xxxxr0 – Rudolf V3-11-05/xxxxr0 – Rudolf V4-11-05/xxxxr0 – Rudolf V5-11-05/xxxxr0 – Rudolf 11-05/0369r1 – Qi 11-05/0370r1 - Qi Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Proposed Agenda (cont.) May 2005 802.1 Architecture Requirements discussion (11-05/0224r2) Other technical submissions Revised 5 Criteria co-existence text Next steps Motions for working group Adjourn Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Thursday Agenda (revised) May 2005 8:00 - Recess (30 minutes) 8:30 - Firmware Update (v14) - John Klein (30 minutes) 9:00 - Load Balancing Requirements (11-05/0370r0) - Emily Qi (30 minutes) 9:30 - Load Balancing (v5) - Marian Rudolf (30 minutes) 10:00 - break 10:30 - Load Balancing (v12) - Joe Epstein (25 minutes) 10:55 - Tx Power (v13) - Joe Epstein (25 minutes) 11:20 - Deferral (v2) - Marian Rudolf (25 minutes) 11:45 - Inter AP (v11) - Joe Epstein (25 minutes) 12:10 - Planning for July (Next Steps) 12:30 - Adjourn Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Motion #1 to adopt Agenda May 2005 Moved: to adopt the agenda Mover: Harry Worstell Seconded: Jesse Walker Passes: unanimous Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Motion #2 to approve TGv March 2005 minutes May 2005 Moved: to approve meeting minutes 05/0292r0 Mover: Richard paine Seconded: John Klein Passes: unanimous Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Attendance Recording -802.11 May 2005 A sign-in sheet will be located at the Registration desk Each member must sign-in “once” (1) per day, between the hours of 0800 and 1800 local time Participants must “sign” their name in the appropriate place and state % of attendance that day in 802.11 Attendance will be checked against other 802 groups. Those found abusing the honor system will loose ALL credit for that day. These sheets are provided daily. If you don’t sign up during the “regular sign-in” hours, you will NOT be given credit for that day. Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
ftp://server/ IP Address: 10.0.0.5 www.802wirelessworld.com May 2005 ftp://server/ IP Address: 10.0.0.5 www.802wirelessworld.com Will NOT be used for this Session! Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
ftp://server/802-11/ Upload ALL Submissions May 2005 ftp://server/802-11/ Upload ALL Submissions Into the INCOMING Documents folder Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Secretary/Editor Secretary: Technical Editor: May 2005 Secretary: Bob Miller may be available once 802.11e is completed Technical Editor: Emily Qi has volunteered Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards January 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/xxxx May 2005 IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents and patent applications provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents whose infringement is, or in the case of patent applications, potential future infringement the applicant asserts will be, unavoidable in a compliant implementation of either mandatory or optional portions of the standard [essential patents]. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent or patent application becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either: a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement either mandatory or optional portions of the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity complying with the standard; or b) A statement that a license for such implementation will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination. This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period. Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Pat R Calhoun, Airespace
Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings January 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/xxxx May 2005 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings Don’t discuss the validity/essentiality of patents/patent claims Don’t discuss the cost of specific patent use Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions, or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Pat R Calhoun, Airespace
Straw poll #1 May 2005 Who believes that the task group should officially adopt 11-05/0369r1 as security requirements to TGw. Yes: 10 No: 1 (belief we are too early in the process) Abstain: Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Straw poll #2 May 2005 Does the TG believe that the DCS issues listed in v1-11-05-xxx1-00-000v-DCS-Kwak-Rudolf should be considered as a problem to solve in TGv, with the understanding the TG would define the tools, not the algorithms ? Yes:7 No: 4 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Straw poll #3 May 2005 Does the TG believe that the long term power saving issues listed in v3-11-05-xxxx-00-000v-Power-Saving-Kwak-Rudolf should be considered as a possible problem to solve in TGv? Yes: 6 No: 2 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Straw poll #4 May 2005 Does the TG believe that the short term power saving issues listed in v3-11-05-xxxx-00-000v-Power-Saving-Kwak-Rudolf should be considered as a possible problem to solve in TGv? Yes: 0 No: 7 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Straw poll #5 May 2005 Does the TG believe that the AP firmware upgrade requirements in v14-11-05-xxxx-00-000v-Firmware-Upgrade should be considered as a possible problem to solve in TGv? Yes: 7 No: 0 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Straw poll #6 May 2005 Does the TG believe that the client firmware upgrade requirements in v14-11-05-xxxx-00-000v-Firmware-Upgrade should be considered as a possible problem to solve in TGv? Yes: 2 No: 8 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Straw poll #7 May 2005 Does the TG believe that the load balancing issues described in 11-05-0370-02-000v-bss-load-balancing-requirements and v5-11-05-xxxx-00-000v-Load-Balancing-Kwak-Rudolf should be considered as a possible problem to solve in TGv? Yes: 13 No: 1 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Straw poll #8 May 2005 Does the TG believe that the transmit power recommendations described in v13-11-05-xxxx-00-000v-Transmit-Power should be considered as a possible problem to solve in TGv? Yes: 14 No: 0 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Straw poll #9 May 2005 Does the TG believe that the TPC/EDT recommendations described in v2-11-05-xxxx-01-000v-TPC-EDT-Kwak-Rudolf should be considered as a possible problem to solve in TGv? Yes: 13 No: 1 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Straw poll #10 May 2005 Does the TG believe that the Access Point Coordination general ideas (or a subset thereof) as described in v11-11-05-xxxx-00-000v-access-point-coordination should be considered as a possible problem to address in TGv? Yes: 14 No: 0 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Motion #3 to appoint Secretary May 2005 Moved: to appoint Bob Miller to be secretary of TGv Mover: Harry Worstell Seconder: Richard Paine Passes: Unanimous Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Motion #4 to appoint Technical Editor May 2005 Moved: to appoint Emily Qi to be editor of TGv Mover: Jesse Walker Seconder: Marian Rudolf Passes: Unanimous Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Motion #5 to modify 5 criteria document May 2005 Propose to add the following coexistence assurance statement to the TGv 5 criteria document: As requested by Exec Comm, move to request that the IEEE 802.11 WG add a coexistence assurance statement to the TGv 5 Criteria Document, Clause 5d: “IEEE Standard 802.11v will address wireless network management only and there will be no co-existence issues.” Mover: Marian Rudolf Seconded: Joe Kwak Passes: 8/0/0 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Actions May 2005 No actions Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Work completed May 2005 Elected Bob Miller as Secretary and Emily Qi as Technical Editor Provided TGv security requirements to TGw Requirements considered in scope Dynamic Channel Selection (DCS) Power Saving AP Firmware Upgrade Load Balancing Transmit Power Control Access Point Coordination Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
WG motion to modify TGv 5 criteria document May 2005 Move to add the following coexistence assurance statement to the TGv 5 criteria document: As requested by Exec Comm, move to request that the IEEE 802.11 WG add a coexistence assurance statement to the TGv 5 Criteria Document, Clause 5d: “IEEE Standard 802.11v will address wireless network management only and there will be no co-existence issues.” Mover: Seconded: Passes: Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Output Documents 11-05/0224r2 – TGv requirements May 2005 11-05/0224r2 – TGv requirements 11-05/0459r2 – TGv May 2005 meeting minutes V6-11-05/xxxxr2 – TGv May 2005 Meeting Report Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Goals for July May 2005 Move all requirements for which there is no owner into the ‘B’ list. Only focus on ‘A’ list items moving forward. The WG will entertain presentations to move ‘B’ items to ‘A’ list. Presentations on the remaining ‘A’ list items will be heard, and the TG will determine whether they are in or out of scope Members will begin to provide recommended requirements text Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
Adjourn Meeting adjourned at 12:17pm on May 19, 2005 May 2005 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco