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September 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 September 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: 2008-09-08 Authors: Name Address Affiliations Phone Email Donald Eastlake 3rd 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA Motorola +1-508-634-2066 d3e3e3@gmail.com Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group September 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Waikoloa, Hawai‘i 8-11 September, 2008 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd. (Motorola) d3e3e3@gmail.com +1-508-634-2066 Technical Editor: Anthony Maida (3eTI) Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 Hilton Waikoloa September 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Venue Hilton Waikoloa Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

General Flow of the TGs Meeting September 2008 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday Administrivia and Status TGs Process Presentation Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Tuesday Wednesday Security Presentations Thursday TGs Process Discussion Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Other Technical Presentations Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 8 September 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Monday, 8 September 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room Call meeting to Order Miscellaneous Announcements Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Agenda Approved by unanimous consent Minutes Approved by unanimous consent: Denver meeting minutes: 11-08/835r0 Teleconference minutes: July 23, Aug 6, Aug 20, 11-08/936r0, 11-08/960r0, 11-08/989r0 Kaua‘i ad hoc minutes: 11-08/1038r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Miscellaneous Announcements September 2008 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at 802.11 WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the 802.11/.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

September 2008 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html Anti-Trust: http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf IEEE Ethics: http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html Letter of Assurance Form: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf IEEE Patent Committee: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html IEEE Patent Policy: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Patent FAQ: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform September 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Patent Related Links September 2008 All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Call for Potentially Essential Patents September 2008 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings September 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Automated Attendance Recording September 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Automated Attendance Recording Go to http://newton/11/attendance (Documents: http://802server.events.ieee.org/ or 172.16.0.10 or just http://newton) Sign-in Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything! Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 8 September 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Monday, 8 September 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room Status of TGs Draft and Comment Resolutions Draft D2.01+ “Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 126”, 11-08/493r18 The substance of comments 374, 763, and 1065 are not to be discussed Presentation and Discussion on Process “TGs Process, September”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/1049r0 “Awake Window Handling”, 11-08/1055r0, Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia) Straw Poll: 802.11s shall define a single mechanism (no matter what it is) for Awake Window and groupcast frames delivery handling ? Yes: 5 No: 0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 8 September 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Monday, 8 September 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room Straw Poll: What do You consider as the best alternative for the Awake Window and the groupcast frames transmission handling? (Please vote for the most attractive alternative only) Before the Awake Window After the Awake Window Only during the Awake Window Combined Groupcast delivery and Awake Window The current mode, Awake Window and groupcast delivery are two separate issues Abstain / do not know / do not care Option1: 0 Option 2: 0 Option3: 0 Option4: 4 Option5: 0 Abstain: 12 Power Aware Link Metric, 11-08/1014r0 (Word 11-08/1015r0: “Forwarding MPs in Power Save”), Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 8 September 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Monday, 8 September 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room Straw Poll: Should the default link metric be Power Save aware? Yes: 2 No: 4 Abstain: 9 “Normative Text for Power Save”, 11-08/1057r0, Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia) “Power Save Comment Resolutions”, 11-08/1056r0 (Word: 11-08/1057r0 & 11-08/1015r0), Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia) “MDA Issues”, 11-08/635r3, 11-08/636r5, Liwen Chu (STMicrosystems) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 8 September 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Monday, 8 September 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room Straw Poll: Do you think the problems in 11-08/635r3 should be solved based on the methods or the updated methods in 11-08/635r3? Yes: 1 No: 1 Do not know: 14 Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 8 September 2008 16:00 – 18:00, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Monday, 8 September 2008 16:00 – 18:00, Queen’s 4 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Straw Poll on interest in working on comment resolutions in sub-group, by category: MAC: 5 Security: 5 RFI: 5 General: 2 Divide into subgroups for comment resolution as follows: MAC – Michelle Gong Security – Jesse Walker RFI – Guenael Strutt Recombine and Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 8 September 2008 19:30 – 21:30, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Monday, 8 September 2008 19:30 – 21:30, Queen’s 4 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Divide into subgroups for comment resolution as follows: MAC – Michelle Gong Security – Jesse Walker RFI – Guenael Strutt Recombine and Recess until 10:30 Tuesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 9 September2008 10:30 – 13:30, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Tuesday, 9 September2008 10:30 – 13:30, Queen’s 4 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Moved, To adopt the comment resolution in 11-08/1033r2 (Kauai ad hoc resolutions) with Resolution Status (Column P) = “Open”, Topic Category (Column H) = “General”, and Resolution Code = “Accept”, “Counter”, or “Reject” except CID 128; and direct the Editor to incorporate the accepts and counters into the Draft. Mover: Tony Maida Seconder: Guido Hiertz Yes: 11 No: 0 Abstain: 2 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 9 September2008 10:30 – 13:30, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Tuesday, 9 September2008 10:30 – 13:30, Queen’s 4 Room Reports from subgroups Security – Jesse Walker Work in document 11-08/1088r0 Reviewed all security related comment Resolution proposed for 22 comments Working through deferred comments MAC – Michelle Gong Discussed a large number of submissions and agreed on directions Various people are working on normative text to present RFI – Guenael Strutt “Waikoloa RFI Comment Resolution”, 11-09/1108r0. If all resolution adopted, will be at 45% of RFI resolved. Have not attacked the lazy WDS problem. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 9 September2008 10:30 – 13:30, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Tuesday, 9 September2008 10:30 – 13:30, Queen’s 4 Room Straw Poll on subgroup interest: Security: 5 MAC: 7 RFI: 3 Divide into subgroups for comment resolution Recombine The Chair announced the availability of D2.02 including a red-line and word conversion in the Member’s Area. This Draft incorporates changes through Denver. Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 9 September2008 13:30 – 15:30, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Tuesday, 9 September2008 13:30 – 15:30, Queen’s 4 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Pending Presentations September 2008 Pending Presentations MP -> Mesh Station, Guido R. Hiertz 11-08/957r2 and 11-08/798r1, Liwen Chu (STMicrosystems) “Synchronization related comment resolution”, 11-08/1071r0 (Word: 11-08/1073r0 &11-08/1076r0) (Excel: 11-08/1077r0), Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) “Channel switch related comment resolution”, 11-08/1067r0, Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 9 September2008 17:30 – 21:30, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Tuesday, 9 September2008 17:30 – 21:30, Queen’s 4 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft Recess until 08:00 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Wednesday, 10 September 2008 08:00 – 10:00, Queen’s 4 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Wednesday, 10 September 2008 08:00 – 10:00, Queen’s 4 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Security Presentations “Proposed Resolutions on PLM Text”, 11-08/1082r0, Jesse Walker / Meiyuan Zhao (Intel) Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Wednesday, 10 September 2008 13:30 – 18:00, Queen’s 3 Room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Wednesday, 10 September 2008 13:30 – 18:00, Queen’s 3 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft Recess until 16:00 Recess until 08:00 Thursday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Thursday, 11 September 2008 08:00 – 10:00, Queen’s 4 room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Thursday, 11 September 2008 08:00 – 10:00, Queen’s 4 room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance recording reminder Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:30 – 15:30, Queen’s 4 room doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:30 – 15:30, Queen’s 4 room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance recording reminder Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences “TGs Process, September”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/1049r1 Other Technical Presentations Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

[Reference Information] September 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 [Reference Information] Updated PAR at http://standards.ieee.org/board/nes/projects/802-11s.pdf. Original PAR for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheets: 11-08/493r18: Resolution of Letter Ballot #126 Comments (D2.01) TGs Technical Editors: Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 + Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 through D2.0 W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 through D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

[Earlier Meeting Minutes] September 2008 doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/935r5 September 2008 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0 May 2008, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-08/580r2 May 2008, ad hoc meeting, Santa Clara, California, 11-08/539r0 March 2008, Orlando, Florida, 11-08/424r0 January 2008, Taipei, Taiwan, 11-08/170r2 November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1 September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2495r0 September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0 July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11-07/2277r0 June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/2009r0 May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11-07/746r0 April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11-07/559r1 Recent Teleconference Minutes May 28, June 25, July 9: 11-08/704r0, 11-08/749r0, 11-08/793r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola