802.24 Vertical Applications TAG Closing Report March 2019 Vancouver, BC, Canada Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Agenda – 802.24-19-0007r1 Tim Godfrey, EPRI 802.24 Agenda - March 2019, Vancouver, BC, Canada 24-19-0007-01-0000 1 Monday PM2 session 1.1 Call session to order, present “Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings”, Quorum Godfrey 5 4:00 PM 1.2 Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda 4:05 PM 1.3 Approve minutes from prior TAG meeting 4:10 PM 1.4 Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting 4:15 PM 1.5 Liaison Review 15 4:20 PM 1.6 802.24.1 Smart Grid Task Group 4:35 PM 1.7 Liasion Discussion of IEC SEG8 report "Monitoring and impact assessment of emerging technologies and architectures" 1.8 Collaboration with 802.21: 'Network Enablers for Seamless HMD-based VR (Virtual Reality)’ Godfrey / Das 30 4:50 PM 1.9 Review any comments and finalize TSN White Paper 20 5:20 PM 2 Recess 5:40 PM Tuesday PM2 session 2.1 Call to Order 802.24 TAG 2.2 Progressing "Network Integration" concept into a project 4:30 PM 2.3 Call to Order 802.24.2 IoT Task Group DiMinico 5:00 PM 2.4 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report 2.5 Review of IoT white paper development, expanding scope and participation DiMinico/Godfrey 5:15 PM 2.6 Single Pair Ethernet White Paper 5:30 PM 2.7 5:45 PM 2.8 Joint Meeting with 802.1 TSN Godfrey/Farkas 6:00 PM 3 Wednesday PM2 session 3.1 3.2 ITU and regulatory items Godfrey/Holcomb 3.3 Liaison with ATIS TOPS Council IoT Categorization Focus Group - review and comment on IoT Characteristics Matrix 40 4:55 PM 3.4 Low Latency White Paper Holland 5:25 PM 3.5 Coordination with 802.19 on 802.15.4g and 802.11ah Coexistence project Godfrey/Rolfe 3.6 802.24 New Action Items, New Activities, AOB 10 5:50 PM 3.7 Adjourn Tim Godfrey, EPRI
802.24 TAG Approve January minutes TAG Action Items from January: Announce IoT Matrix teleconference on reflector, with call for comments (done) Re-announce TSN white paper call for comments for March meeting (Done) Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Monday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Goals for AR/VR collaboration in 802.24 802.21 plans to provide the services layer above the MAC/PHY AR/VR is an identified vertical application for Smart Grid (electric utilities) for field force, safety, and training 802.24 will liaise to other WGs if they develop amendments to their standards to support RTC. 802.21 will provide input on requirements to WGs Vertical Application areas can provide input on specific use cases Include representatives from related activities in other WG’s 802.24 will provide a venue for collaboration (joint meetings) at Plenary Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Next Steps 802.21 to provide text contributions Goal is to have the real time white paper by 2020? Bring together various working groups to solve issues for VR and performance. Application space is driven by ever increasing resolution. Target HDMI 1.2 specification. Resolultion and frame rate drive data rate. Can it be compressed? This can be seen as alternative to 5G approaches, but standards-based and lower cost to use. Show how Wi-Fi technology can provide an equally good or better result and performance (bandwidth and low jitter and low latency) Map identified uses cases on to various IEEE 802 standards. Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Liaison with IEC SEG8 Scope of SEG8: Assess, provide an overview and prioritization of the evolution of technical development and standardization in the field of communication technologies and architectures The report includes aspects relevant to both Smart Grid and IoT. Document shared in 802.24 Private Area IEC_SEG8_Deliverable2_draft_181118_ext_clean.pdf Updated version uploaded to private area with annotations Key chapters relevant to input from 802.24 IoT Technologies Single-pair Ethernet (SPE) Deterministic Networking Low-Power Wide-Area Networks (LPWAN) V2V, V2I, V2P and V2N communication technologies Final Opportunity to review and comment as SEG8 is finishing in next few months Comments captured. Draft with comments uploaded to private area. Tim Godfrey, EPRI
TSN White Paper Remaining embedded comments resolved Final review with 802.1 TSN Updated status of several TSN standards Update posted as 24-18-0022r3. Remaining comment for input from 802.21 on VR enablers in utility use cases Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Tuesday 802.24 TAG Tim Godfrey, EPRI
“Network Integration” action item Action assigned from 802 EC leadership conference in July. Discussion on role and positioning of IEEE 802 in standards, especially with respect to 3GPP and the publicity on “5G” What is meant by Network Integration? Does the IEEE 802 architecture provide a unique value to vertical market? Is IEEE 802 more suited to deployment in the communication infrastructure of private enterprise, industry, and the individual user? (Compared to 3GPP, which is more oriented towards service providers?) The IEEE 802 architecture enables networks that are like Ethernet: Well understood, mature, predictable. A “cleaner” integration of disparate technologies under the common architecture and addressing. Can we develop a clearer definition and description of this distinction and the value for the user / implementer? Can this be developed into a white paper? Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Review of 802.1CF in this context November Presentation Max Riegel “Thoughts on IEEE 802 network integration with respect to P802.1CF” 24-18-0026r0 Discussion Based on many discussions of the place of 802.11 in 5G. 5G SC Conclusions – AANI integrating 802.11 into 5G domain. Nothing corresponding in 3GPP Industry connections – NENDICA Flexible Factory IoT, Data Center Bridging What’s missing – a picture of 802 as a peer to 5G 5G promises they will do “everything” But, they don’t do anything wired 5G requires an extensive PLMN to support it. It is designed to help the cellular operator grow their market Verticals might not want an operator in the middle of their network Value proposition: 802 networks are customer-owned Example – Santa Clara Emergency services issues Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Key Points from Discussion IEEE 802 is a transport network IEEE 802 is Layer 2 3GPP RAN is layer 3 only, Layer 2 is not available Direct support of IPv4 and IPv6 or pure layer 2 protocols Trade-off between flexibility (L2) and scalability (L3) Routing provides path to higher scale Smaller scale provide more flexibility Smaller scale provides opportunity for real-time IEEE 802 can route via L3 when needed. 3GPP cannot offer L2 IEEE 802 can also offer L2 routing when appropriate (e.g. 802.15.10) Not an alternative to L3 routing, but there to address a different problem Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Key Points, contd 802 does not provide as many means control a specific end device and it’s traffic on a path. There are some management facilities in some standards 3GPP networks provide more tools for subscriber management 802 provides local networks that may be (but don’t have to be) connected into an Internet. Operator networks are focused on services for single devices, while 802 networks support and include multiple devices (networks of networks) – devices can communicate with each other as well as with other networks Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Non-802 wireless IoT networks Commercial, proprietary IoT services They don’t have an ethernet like L2. The system does not have the concept of a LAN. It is terminal to central “gateway” only. Star topology only. Similar to LTE UE to UE traffic that must route through core. (DTD Proximity services have addressed that to some extent) 5G URLLC, and MMTC. IEEE 802 has already developed TSN in wired, and now being developed for wireless. Latency is impossible to guarantee in unlicensed, shared spectrum. However it can be highly optimized by the MAC layer. IEEE 802 has a history and internal coordination of coexistence between different standards operating in unlicensed spectrum. 3GPP is oriented towards exclusively licensed spectrum, “sharing” is a foreign concept. 3GPP has a common strategy for the three use cases. IEEE 802 has a common architecture, but not a common business strategy. License exempt can provide higher economic value per MHz of spectrum. See WFA economic value. Cisco Visual Networking Index. Wi-Fi carries more data than all cellular spectrum Wi-Fi created the expectation of broadband wireless that led to the development of LTE What would it look like to combine multiple IEEE 802 standards into a single offering? Some vendors already do that – integrating 802 technologies into systems. The “Package” offered by the “5G” ecosystem is clearly articulated. What is the comparable offering from IEEE 802? Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Key Points, contd. IEEE needs to think about how to create that package without a “subscription model” IEEE 802 is often free IEEE 802 is deployed in vertical markets, where the network is owned and operated by the user of the services. Are there other models for IEEE 802 other than subscription that can provide ancillary economic value? Is management of shared spectrum a candidate? IEEE 802 and unlicensed spectrum enables faster innovation Many of the breakthrough innovations were not as planned The story of why IEEE 802 complements everything else, and everything else (alone) is not sufficient. IoT is built around many specialized niches. The challenge is meeting the diverse requirements. IEEE 802 provides multiple standards to address multiple IoT applications. Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Next Steps Do we pursue a white paper in this area? Yes, there is a good reason, and a starting point Volunteers to assemble notes into a draft white paper Discuss at next meeting of TAG - May in Atlanta, and also in July in Vienna Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Wednesday 802.24 TAG Tim Godfrey, EPRI
ITU and Radio Regulatory Items Update from 802.18 – Jay Holcomb 900 MHz licensed spectrum NPRM Will be discussed at Open Meeting of FCC Call 900 MHz Broadband, but is not related to ISM band. 896-901 and 935-940 MHz. Propose to transition part of band from channelized LMR to 3x3 MHz. Move LMR into remaining portion of band. Up to 400W/MHz PSD ESD on towers 304m. (similar to narrowband paging at 1KW) Is there a possible interference concern with ISM systems in 902-928 MHz? OFCOM – 2390-2400 MHz consultation High power devices could interfere with lower end of 2.4 GHz ISM band This is planned as licensed spectrum 802.18 will consider a late filing Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Liaison with ATIS TOPS Council IoT Categorization Focus Group ATIS: Alliance for Telecommunications Industry Solutions Review and comment on IoT Characteristics Matrix provided by ATIS Review completed and matrix with comments posted as 24-19-0004r4 Will be forwarded back to ATIS committee Tim Godfrey, EPRI
“Low latency” White Paper Achieving low latency with IEEE 802 standards Including wired and wireless communications An alternative (or complement) to 5G URLLC A set of vertical applications enabled by low latency The challenges of reliable low latency in unlicensed spectrum. Adapting TSN’s “FRER” feature Adapting 802 wireless to licensed spectrum? Operating over multiple bands or channels? Special cases for high data rates for immersive video Oliver Holland is leading white paper development Outline draft discussed, edited, and updated as 24-19-0003r1 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
802.15.4g and 802.11ah Coexistence (802.19.3) 802.24 will develop a whitepaper/document for application-specific use cases. Identifying where each standard is most suitable, and how to make best use of other changes. Identify use cases where 802.15.4g is not sufficient and both are needed Could be choices of applications, channel guidelines, duty cycle, Avoid perception that 802 standards are unable to coexist Evaluate and describe potential application-level implications of delay/latency increases due to mutual interference 802.19.3 project schedule: A draft ready by April WG Ballot Sept 2019 SA Ballot November 2019 Consider starting a white paper in 2nd half of year. Review in July Tim Godfrey, EPRI
2019 TAG Activity Plan “Low latency” White Paper Continue in May Include 802.21 AR/VR activity Nendica FFIOT might also fit into this “Network Integration” white paper about unique benefits of IEEE 802 architecture Develop notes from discussion this week into outline for white paper A whitepaper/document for application-specific use cases of Sub 1GHz standards 802.15.4g and 802.11ah. Identifying where each standard is most suitable, and how to make best use of mechanisms proposed in 802.19.3 TG. Can this also include applying 802.15.4s in sub-1GHz spectrum? 2H 2019 for starting TBD 802.24 white paper on IoT and P2413 Update of first Smart Grid white paper to address latest amendments of 802.15.4 u, v, w, x, y, Revmd Tim Godfrey, EPRI
802.24 TAG closing Action Items from this meeting Any New Business? Get latest P2413 draft for private area Subir Das to provide VR text for TSN White Paper Any New Business? Tim Godfrey, EPRI