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Discussion on PHY CIDs 2773 and 2775 April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 Discussion on PHY CIDs 2773 and 2775 Date: 2007-06-25 Authors: Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE 802.11. It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE 802.11. Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures <http:// ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair stuart@ok-brit.com as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE 802.11 Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at <patcom@ieee.org>. Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

Abstract Discussion on PHY CIDs 2773 and 2775. June 2007 April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 Abstract Discussion on PHY CIDs 2773 and 2775. Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

CID 2773 June 2007 April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 Page Line Clause Comment Proposed Change Resolution 2773 306.06 6 20.3.23 I have a general problem with the description of the PMD that understands the formatting of the PLCP C-PSDU. IMHO, if we define an abstraction (i.e. C-PSDU), we should define how to construct a C-PSDU in the PLCP, and how to transmit one in the PMD. Restructure so that the procedures describe how to transmit and receive a C-PSDU. and add the mapping of length in the LENGTH parameter to the length of the C-PSDU. The term coded PSDU (C-PSDU) is used in the transmit and receive procedures to indicate the PSDU after FEC is applied to it. It is not a new term, the acronym is in the baseline and is used in the same manner in clause 17 also in the transmit and receive procedures. There is precedence for using this structure in clause 20. The MCS, which is included in the PMD_TX_PARAMETERS gives all the information necessary to create a C-PSDU, and all of 20.3.10 details how to construct it. Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 Strawpoll for CID 2773 Do we need to restructure the transmit (20.3.22) and receive (20.3.23) procedures to formalize the use of C-PSDU? Yes: 2 No: 6 Abstain: 9 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

Resolution Resolution: Reject April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 Resolution Resolution: Reject Reason for rejection: similar language and structure is used in clause 17. Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 CID 2775 CID Page Line Clause Comment Proposed Change Resolution 2775 306.31 31 20.3.23 The receive procedures do not match the architecture. The PLCP defines the encoding of the signal fields. The PLCP needs to decode these fields in order to determine the demodulation of subsequent data symbols. However, there is no primitive in this diagram, nor in the PMD_SAP that allows it to do this. Further, detection of HT_MF or NON-ht depends on decoding the rotation of the HT-SIG. There is no signal that provides this information. Add a primitive whereby the PLCP can set up the PMD to receive symbols after the signal field. Add a primitive that allows the PLCP to sense significant acquisition events that determine the packet format. Redraw the rx procedures to show these primitives in use. An email to commenter about this comment solicited the following response: “We have no description of how to receive a PPDU.  What we have is a description of how to receive an HT PPDU,  if you know in advance that it will be an HT PPDU.” The first step in the receive state machine in Figure n86 is “Detect SIG Type” PMD_FORMAT.ind gives indication of NOT_HT, HT_MF, or HT_GF. Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 Strawpoll for CID 2775 Do we need to restructure the receive (20.3.23) to match the architecture? Yes: 0 No: 7 Abstain: 11 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

Resolution Resolution: Reject April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 Resolution Resolution: Reject Reason for rejection: The first step in the receive state machine in D2.0 Figure n86 is “Detect SIG Type”. PMD_FORMAT.ind gives indication of NOT_HT, HT_MF, or HT_GF. Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

CID 2772 The exact same sentence is in 17.3.12 June 2007 April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 CID 2772 CID Page Line Clause Comment Proposed Change Resolution 2772 306.06 6 20.3.23 "If the binary convolutional code is used, any data received after the indicated data length are considered pad bits (to fill out an OFDM symbol) and should be discarded."It is not clear who does this discarding, the PLCP or the PMD. Also, it is correct to discard the tail bits? Indicate who is responsible for this behaviour and account for the tail bits. The exact same sentence is in 17.3.12 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 Strawpoll for CID 2772 Do we need to indicate who is responsible for discarding of pad bits and account for the tail bits? Yes: 0 No: 13 Abstain: 7 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

Resolution Resolution: Reject April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 Resolution Resolution: Reject Reason for rejection: similar language is used in clause 17.3.12. Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

CID 2784 The exact same sentence is in 17.5.5.3.2 June 2007 April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 CID 2784 CID Page Line Clause Comment Proposed Change Resolution 2784 321.24 24 20.5.5.3.2 "after the decoding of the FEC by the PMD entity."This doesn't fit with the architecture described previously that has the PLCP submit a C-PSDU to the PMD. Remove the quoted phrase. The exact same sentence is in 17.5.5.3.2 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 Strawpoll for CID 2784 Do we need to remove the phrase “after the decoding of the FEC by the PMD entity” ? Yes: 0 No: 3 Abstain: 14 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

Resolution Resolution: Reject April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0 June 2007 Resolution Resolution: Reject Reason for rejection: similar language is used in clause 17.5.5.3.2. Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation