TGu Agenda Date: 2005-11-14 Authors: November 2005 November 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 TGu Agenda Date: 2005-11-14 Authors: Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE 802.11. It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE 802.11. Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures <http:// ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair <stuart.kerry@philips.com> as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE 802.11 Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at <patcom@ieee.org>. Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
November 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 Abstract Agenda for TGu Interworking with External Networks for November 2005, Vancouver, British Colombia, Canada. Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
Monday Ad-Hoc 14 November 2005, 08:00 – 09:30 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 Monday Ad-Hoc 14 November 2005, 08:00 – 09:30 Call to Order Attendance Sheet (for Ad Hoc session) Review of Task Group Documents (what next) Scenarios and assumptions – 11-05-355r7 Requirements Document – 11-05-822r3 Review of Down Selection Procedure Draft document – 11-05-618r1 Is it required? What next? Call for Proposals Discussion Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
Tuesday I 15 November 2005, 10:30 – 12:30 Call to Order doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 Tuesday I 15 November 2005, 10:30 – 12:30 Call to Order Attendance Register 802 registration desk Sign once per day between 07:30 – 17:30 Mark attended sessions in IEEE 802.11 Review IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures Intellectual Property Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards November 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period. Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002 Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
Patent Committee Ruling – January 6, 2005 November 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 Patent Committee Ruling – January 6, 2005 At the December 2004 meeting of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee (PatCom), Paul Nikolich (Chair, 802) on behalf of Stuart Kerry (Chair, 802.11)led discussion on an agenda item titled 'Discussion of P802.11n Protest'. You noted that some members of the P802.11n working group requested a clarification of policy from PatCom regarding what would be acceptable to discuss during a working group technical presentation, regarding patent information/statements. PatCom is charged with providing oversight for the use of patents and patent information in IEEE Standards. PatCom is also charged with reviewing patent information submitted to the IEEE Standards Department to determine conformity with patent procedures and guidelines. As empowered by the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, PatCom has reviewed the information presented and rendered its decision by interpreting the policies and procedures of the IEEE and the IEEE-SA relevant to the issues. In regards to the presentation of information to a standards development group, PatCom has decided the following: 1. After a patent letter of assurance (LoA) has been accepted by PatCom, it is allowable for a presenter to state that an LoA has been filed by a Patent Holder, accepted by PatCom, and listed in the online listing of LoAs at http://standards.ieee.org/db/patents/index.html Anyone seeking a copy of the accepted LoA should contact the PatCom Administrator. 2. Discussion of the content of accepted, submitted, or proposed LoAs is prohibited. 3. Discussion of licensing terms and conditions is prohibited. Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
Inappropriate Topics for IEEE TG Meetings November 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE TG Meetings Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002 Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
November 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 Meeting Etiquette "Individuals are to address the comments of others only, not the person" Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
Tuesday I (cont.) 15 November 2005, 10:30 – 12:30 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 Tuesday I (cont.) 15 November 2005, 10:30 – 12:30 Minutes Approval of Minutes of September 2005 meeting 11-05-1028-00-000u-minutes-september-2005.doc Approve Agenda Overview of last TGu meeting 11-05-1017-00-000u-closing-report.ppt Decisions from Monday’s Ad-Hoc Down Selection update (11-05-1155r0) Call for Proposals Requirements Document Approval motion 11-05-1175-00-000u-document-motions.ppt Open issues 11-05-1031-00-000u-open-issues.ppt Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
Tuesday II 15 November 2005, 13:30 – 15:30 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 Tuesday II 15 November 2005, 13:30 – 15:30 RFC 1321 ordering selection procedure British Colombia Lottery Results from November 12th 2005 http://www.bclc.com/Default.asp Pre-Proposal Presentations B. Huawei/Intel (11-05-1168r0/1169r0) A. Siemens (11-05-0870r1) D. Panasonic (11-05-1138r0) E. STMicroelectronics (11-05-1062r0) C. FMCA (11-05-1088r0) G. Root Inc (11-05-1093r0) F. Nokia (11-05-0971r0) Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
Wednesday 16 November 2005, 13:30 – 15:30 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 Wednesday 16 November 2005, 13:30 – 15:30 Joint Session with IEEE 802.21 IEEE 802.21 .11 requirements document IEEE 802.11u specific .21 requirements Discussion about REQ d16M2 Can these be merged into the same thing? IEEE 802.21 expectations Timelines (IEEE 802.11u and IEEE 802.21) Way forward Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
Thursday I 17 November 2005, 08:00 – 10:00 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 Thursday I 17 November 2005, 08:00 – 10:00 Virtual AP Issue 11-05-1219r0 (Dorothy/Subbu) – paper – 11-05-1120r1 E911 Issues 11-05-1096r0 (Mike) 11-05-1119r0 (Alistair) IEEE 802.21 requirement Provide a mechanism (for APs) to indicate Media Independent Handoff capability Down Selection Procedure New requirement text and motion Hong Cheng Re-approve requirements document Remaining Task Group Document motions 11-05-1175-00-000u-document-motions.ppt Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
Thursday II 17 November 2005, 10:30 – 12:30 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/1060r4 November 2005 Thursday II 17 November 2005, 10:30 – 12:30 Call for Proposals 3GPP2 liaison (11-05-1143r0) Teleconference requirements Timeline document review 11-05-0049-04-000u-timeline.ppt http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/802.11_Timelines.htm Preparation for January 2006 Interim Meeting Proposals Presentations Respond to incoming liaisons Joint sessions IEEE 802.11v/11w IEEE 802.21 Results Presentation (Root Inc) AOB Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor