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November 2009 Mesh Meeting Agenda doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 November 2009 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: 2009-11-15 Authors: Name Address Affiliation Phone Email Dee Denteneer Philips Philips Electronics Nederland BV High Tech Campus 37 5656 AE Eindhoven The Netherlands +31-402-749-743 dee.denteneer@philips.com Donald Eastlake 3rd 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA Stellar Switches +1-508-634-2066 d3e3e3@gmail.com Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group November 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Atlanta, Georgia 16-19 November, 2009 Chair: Dee Denteneer Temporary Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks) Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 Hyatt, Atlanta, Georgia November 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Venue Hyatt, Atlanta, Georgia Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

General Flow of the TGs Meeting November 2009 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday (ad hoc) Administrivia Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Tuesday Administrivia and Status TGs Process Presentation Wednesday Security Presentations Thursday TGs Process Discussion Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Dee Denteneer, Phillips

Automated Attendance Recording November 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Automated Attendance Recording Go to http://newton/11/attendance (Documents: http://802server.events.ieee.org/ or 172.16.0.10 or just http://newton) Sign-in Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Miscellaneous Announcements November 2009 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at 802.11 WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the 802.11/.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group. Dee Denteneer, Phillips

November 2009 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html Anti-Trust: http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf IEEE Ethics: http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html Letter of Assurance Form: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf IEEE Patent Committee: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html IEEE Patent Policy: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Patent FAQ: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf Dee Denteneer, Phillips

Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform November 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Patent Related Links November 2009 All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Dee Denteneer, Phillips

Call for Potentially Essential Patents November 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings November 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Monday, 16 November 2009 08:00–11:00 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Monday, 16 November 2009 08:00–11:00 (Hanover B Room) Call Ad Hoc Meeting to Order Miscellaneous Announcements Manual attendance reminder Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Ad Hoc Meeting Agenda Subgroup interest straw poll: MAC: 3, General: 4, RFI: 1, Security: 0 Divide into MAC and General subgroups: General – Guido Hiertz coordinator MAC – Dee Denteneer coordiantor Reconvene and Adjourn Ad Hoc Meeting Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Pending Presentations November 2009 Pending Presentations 1178r0: “detection of maliciously non-forwarding MSTAs ppt”, Michael Bahr ; text in 1177 1224e0 , “PERR, PANN and other RFI corrections “ Guenael Strutt (Motorola) Dee Denteneer, Phillips

Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:30–15:30 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:30–15:30 (Hanover B Room) Call Meeting to Order Miscellaneous Announcements Automated attendance reminder Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Meeting Agenda Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:30–15:30 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:30–15:30 (Hanover B Room) Approval of Minutes: Waikoloa meeting minutes: 11-09/1016r0 Approved by unanimous consent Monday morning Ad Hoc minutes: 11-09/1189r0 Teleconference minutes: 14 October 2009: 11-09/1102r0; 11 November 2009: 11-09/1146r0 Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Hanover B Room) Status of TGs Draft 3.04 and Comment Resolutions “Draft D3.04 status report”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 1101r0 “Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 147”, 11-09/471r18, Kazuyuki Sakoda Presentations 1143r1: “potential confusion in D3.04”, Kazayuki Sakoda Straw Poll : Should we leave the definition of the mesh AP as it currently is in D3.04 Yes 1 No 7Abstain: 5 Straw Poll : Should we remove the definition of “mesh AP” from D3.04 Yes 8 No 3 Abstain 2 Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Hanover B Room) Straw Poll : Do we want to find a new name for “mesh STA colocated with AP” Yes 0 No 6 Abstain 6 Straw Poll :Do we want to introduce text on multiple channel operation Yes 2 No 3Abstain: 7 1142r0: “QoS STA comment resolution”, Kazuyuki Sakoda ; text see 1176r1 1225r0, “station location”, Leo Estevez 1178r0: “detection of maliciously non-forwarding MSTAs ppt”, Michael Bahr ; text in 1177 Recess until 16.00 Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover B Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Moved, To adopt the comment resolutions in 11-09/471r18 with Column X equal to “11-09/1075”, excluding CIDs 379, 1099, 1102, and 1188. Mover: Jarkko Kneckt Seconder: Guido Hiertz Yes: 8 No: 0 Abstain: 0 (passes > ¾) Moved, To adopt the comment resolutions for CID 1102 as shown in document 11-09/1075. Mover: Guido Hiertz Seconder: Stuart Kerry Yes: 5 No: 1 Abstain: 2 (motion passes > ¾) Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover B Room) Presentation 1224r0 , “PERR, PANN and other RFI corrections “ Guenael Strutt (Motorola) Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Subgroups: General (Guido Hiertz) : RFI (Guenael Strutt) Recess until 19:30 Tuesday Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Tuesday, 17 November 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Tuesday, 17 November 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Hanover B Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Overview of non-assigned RFI comments by Guenael: CIDs 498, 645, 502/926, 503, 504, 511, 517, 927 Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until 13:30 Wednesday Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Wednesday, 18 November 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Hanover F Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Wednesday, 18 November 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Hanover F Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Security Presentations Draft D3.04 status report”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 1101r0, issues with security frame Moved, to adopt document 11-09/1224r0 and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft. Mover: Seconder: Yes: No: Abstain: Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Wednesday, 18 November 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Hanover F Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Wednesday, 18 November 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Hanover F Room) 1178r0: “detection of maliciously non-forwarding MSTAs ppt”, Michael Bahr ; text in 1177 Strawpoll: Do you think such a Forwarding Confirmation mechanism, that can detect the malicious non-forwarding / dropping of multihop frames in a mesh BSS, would be a useful addition to the IEEE 802.11s draft standard? yes: no: abstain/don‘t know/ don‘t care: Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Wednesday, 18 November 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Hanover F Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Wednesday, 18 November 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Hanover F Room) Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until 16:00 Wednesday Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover F Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover F Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Motion: Moved, to direct the Editor to incorporate the changes in 11-09/1177r0 (“Detection of maliciously non-forwarding mesh stations (forwarding confirmation)”) into the draft. Mover: Seconder: Yes: No: Abstain: Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until 10:30 Thursday Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Thursday, 19 November 2009 10:30 – 12:30 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Thursday, 19 November 2009 10:30 – 12:30 (Hanover B Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until 16:00 Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Thursday, 19 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Thursday, 19 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover B Room) Call Meeting to Order Selection of Temporary Secretary IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences “TGs Process, September”, 11-09/1156r0 Motions Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Thursday, 19 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Thursday, 19 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover B Room) Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. Mover: Seconder: Yes: No: Abstain: Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Thursday, 19 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Thursday, 19 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover B Room) Motion: Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from LB#147 on P802.11s Draft 3.0 as contained in document 11-09/471rTBD, Instruct the editor to prepare Draft 4.0 incorporating these resolutions and, Approve a 15 day Working Group Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should P802.11s Draft 4.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?” Moved by <name> on behalf of TGs TGs vote: Moved: <name>, Seconded: <name>, Result: y-n-a Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

Thursday, 19 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover B Room) doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 Thursday, 19 November 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Hanover B Room) Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

[Reference Information] November 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 [Reference Information] Updated PAR at http://standards.ieee.org/board/nes/projects/802-11s.pdf. Original PAR for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheet: 11-09/471r18 Resolution of Letter Ballot #147 Comments Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

[Reference Information] November 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 [Reference Information] TGs Chairmen Dee Denteneer, November 2009 … Guido R. Hiertz (temporary Chairman), September 2009 Stuart J. Kerry (temporary Chairman), June 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, May 2004 – November 2009 TGs Technical Editors: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03 … D3.0 … Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 & D2.02 Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 … D2.0 W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 … D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

[Earlier Meeting Minutes] November 2009 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/1099r5 November 2009 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes September 2009, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-09/1016r0 July 2009, San Francisco, California, 11-09/902r0 May 2009, Montreal, Quebec, 11-09/595r0 March 2009, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-09/312r0 January 2009, Los Angeles, California, 11-09/110r0 November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0 September 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0 September 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0 July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0 May 2008, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-08/580r2 May 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Santa Clara, California, 11-08/539r0 Recent Teleconference Minutes 27 July 2009: 11-09/916r0; 16 September 2009: 11-09/970r0 Dee Denteneer, Phillips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches