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802.11 WG Editor’s Meeting (Nov ‘11) May 2011 July 2007 November 2011 802.11 WG Editor’s Meeting (Nov ‘11) Date: 2011-11-06 Authors: Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems)

May 2011 November 2011 Abstract This document contains agenda/minutes/actions/status as prepared/recorded at the IEEE 802.11 Editors’ Meeting Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

Agenda for 2011-11-08 Roll Call / Contacts / Reflector July 2007 May 2011 November 2011 Agenda for 2011-11-08 Roll Call / Contacts / Reflector Go round table and get brief status report ANA Status / Process / What is administered Discussion with IEEE Publications staff 802.11 Mandatory Draft Coordination before SB Numbering Alignment process / Spreadsheet Amendment Ordering / Draft Snapshots Style Guide for 802.11 Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems)

Roll Call – 2011-11-08 November 2011 May 2011 July 2007 802.11 Editor’s Present P802.11mb Amendment (REVmb) – Adrian Stephens P802.11aa Amendment (VTS) – Alex Ashley P802.11ac Amendment (VHT L6) – Robert Stacey P802.11af Amendment (TVWS) – Peter Ecclesine P802.11ah Amendment (S1G) – Minyoung Park P802.11ai Amendment (FILS) – Tom Siep 802.11 Editor’s Not Present P802.11ad Amendment (VHT60) – Carlos Cordeiro P802.11ae Amendment (QosMan) – Henry Ptasinski Also present: Clint Chapman IEEE Staff present and always welcome! Michelle Turner – staff editor for 802, m.turner@ieee.org Tricia Gerdon – our staff liaison, p.gerdon@ieee.org Francisco Drago – staff editor, drago.f@ieee.org IEEE Staff not present and always welcome! Kim Breitfelder – manager publishing, k.breitfelder@ieee.org Note: editors request that an IEEE staff member should be present at least during Plenary meetings Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems)

Volunteer Editor Contacts July 2007 May 2011 November 2011 Volunteer Editor Contacts TGmb – Adrian Stephens – adrian.p.stephens@intel.com TGaa – Alex Ashley – alex.ashley@hotmail.co.uk TGac – Robert Stacey – rjstacey@gmail.com TGad – Carlos Cordeiro – carlos.cordeiro@intel.com TGae – Henry Ptasinski – henry@logout.com TGaf – Peter Ecclesine – pecclesi@cisco.com TGah – Minyoung Park – minyoung.park@intel.com TGai – Tom Siep – tom.siep@csr.com Editors Emeritus: TGk – Joe Kwak– joekwak@sbcglobal.net TGp – Wayne Fisher – TGr – Bill Marshall – wtm@research.att.com TGs – Kazuyuki Sakoda – KazuyukiA.Sakoda@jp.sony.com TGu – Necati Canpolat – necati.canpolat@intel.com TGv – Emily Qi – emily.h.qi@intel.com TGw – Nancy Cam-Winget – ncamwing@cisco.com TGz – Menzo Wentink – mwentink@qualcomm.com Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems)

Round table status report November 2011 Round table status report REVmb – in Sponsor Ballot recirculation 11aa – in SB comment resolution, expect to recirc out of Nov 11ac – expect to go to WG LB out of November 11ad – in WG Letter Ballot comment resolution, approved a clean recirc 11ae – in SB comment resolution, ready for recirc again 11af – hope to go to WG LB after January meeting 11ah – working on spec framework, hope to have a draft in November, 2012 11ai – processing submissions, hope to start a skeleton draft in January, 2012 Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

July 2007 May 2011 November 2011 Reflector Updates Each editor is expected to be on the reflector and current. If you didn’t receive the meeting notice from the reflector, please send email to adrian.p.stephens@intel.com To be updated: None Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems)

IEEE Publication Status July 2007 May 2011 November 2011 IEEE Publication Status Publications completed for 802.11k, 802.11n, 802.11p, 802.11r, 802.11u, 802.11v, 802.11w , 802.11y and 802.11z 11k now available with Get802 11n now available with Get802 11p now available with Get802 11r now available with Get802 11u now available with Get802 11v now available with Get802 11w now available with Get802 11y now available with Get802 11z now available with Get802 Publication of 11s announced September 10th Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems)

Numbering Alignment Process May 2011 November 2011 Numbering Alignment Process Update from all published standards. Posted as 11-11/1149r7 (2011 November 10) REVmb D10 is numbering baseline. 11ae is the first, then 11aa, 11ad, 11af, 11ac, 11ah, 11ai. TG editor will be responsible for ensuring their column represents their latest draft WG editor will update any “changes pending” columns and summarize status to editors Robert to return the lock this week Slide 9 Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

Amendment & other ordering notes May 2011 November 2011 Amendment & other ordering notes Editors define publication order independent of working group public timelines: Since official timeline is volatile and moves around Publication order helps provide stability in amendment numbering, figures, clauses and other numbering assignments Editors are committed to maintain a rational publication order Numbering spreadsheet 11/1149: Succeeding amendments to do their respective updates Must match the official timeline after plenaries Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

Discussion with IEEE Publications staff November 2011 Discussion with IEEE Publications staff Current plan for publication of REVmb is Current expectation is 120 days from Nov 29th – late March 2012 Reviewed the 11s pre-Sponsor Ballot review A learning experience for us all, no benefit was perceived from early editing We share a reasonable expectation that drafts are published soon after approval of the draft Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

MDR Status 802.11 Working Group MDR May 2011 November 2011 MDR Status 802.11 Working Group MDR 11-11/615r4 documents the process MDR now in the 802.11 Operating Manual 11-09/0002r8 P802.11aa D5.0 went through Working Group Mandatory Editorial Coordination before July 2011 P802.11ad D4.0 went through Working Group Mandatory Editorial Coordination before July 2011 P802.11ae D4.0 went through Working Group Mandatory Editorial Coordination before July 2011 Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

Editors page http://www.ieee802.org/11/editor_resources.html November 2011 Editors page http://www.ieee802.org/11/editor_resources.html Comments or changes? Volunteers sought to improve this state. Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

802.11 Style Guide See 11-09-1034-03-0000-wg11-style-guide.doc November 2011 802.11 Style Guide See 11-09-1034-03-0000-wg11-style-guide.doc Editor’s responsibility includes checking the 2009 IEEE Standards Style Manual when creating or updating drafts. Submissions with draft text should conform to both the WG11 Style Guide and IEEE Standards Style Manual Note that the Style Guide evolves with our practice Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

Editor Amendment Ordering July 2007 May 2011 November 2011 Amendment numbering is editorial! No need to make ballot comments on these dynamic numbers! Editor Amendment Ordering Data as of Nov 2011 See http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/Reports/802.11_Timelines.htm Amendment Number Task Group REVCOM Date 802.11 Amendment 8 TGv Feb 2011 802.11 Amendment 9 TGu 802.11 Amendment 10 TGs Sept 2011 802.11 Revision 802.11mb Mar 2012*est. 802.11-2011 Amendment 1 TGae Jun 2012 802.11-2011 Amendment 2 TGaa 802.11-2011 Amendment 3 TGad Dec 2012 802.11-2011 Amendment 4 TGaf Sept 2013 802.11-2011 Amendment 5 TGac Dec 2013 802.11-2011 Amendment 6 TGah July 2013 802.11-2011 Amendment 7 TGai Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems)

Email Your Draft Status Updates September 2007 May 2011 November 2011 Email Your Draft Status Updates Each editor, please send update for next page via the editor’s reflector no later than Thursday am2 to update table on next page! Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems)

Draft Development Snapshot July 2009 July 2007 November 2011 Nov 2011 Draft Development Snapshot Most current doc shaded green. Changes from last report shown in red. TG Published or Draft Baseline Documents Source MEC Style Guide Editor Snapshot Date Published mb ae aa ad af ac ah ai Y 12.0 Frame 9.0 Yes 2009 Adrian Stephens 8-Nov 11.0 6.0 libreoffice 3.3 Henry Ptasinski 10-Nov 7.0 Word Alex Ashley 9-Nov 10.0 5.0 Carlos Cordero 1.04 No Peter Ecclesine 6-Nov 9.0 4.0 3.0 1.0 Robert Stacey 19-Jul Minyoung Park Frame 10.0 Tom Siep 22-Sep Slide 17 Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) Page 17 Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems)

MIB style, Visio and Frame practices November 2011 MIB style, Visio and Frame practices I’m going to suggest going forward we use a single style with appropriately set tabs,  and use leading Tabs to distinguish the syntax and description parts. (Adrian Stephens Feb 9, 2010)  Keep embedded figures using visio as long as possible Near the end of sponsor ballot,  turn these all into .wmf (windows meta file) format files (you can do this from visio using “save as”).   Keep separate files for the .vsd source and the .wmf file that is linked to from frame. Frame templates for 11aa, 11ac, 11ad, 11af Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

Conference Calls Are they of any value? November 2011 Conference Calls Are they of any value? Next Meeting: January 15-20, Jacksonville, FL Any need for conference calls? Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

November 2011 Two Technical Editors Peter Ecclesine will run the face to face meetings Adrian Stephens will run the publication process Adrian Stephens is the ANA administrator All are on the Editor’s email list. Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

May 2011 November 2011 Reference Material Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

Editorial Streamlining July 2007 May 2011 November 2011 Editorial Streamlining Focus is on consistency across all TGs: Completed Streamlined ANA processes – 07/0827r0 and 11/270r7 Consistent format for REDLINE contributions across TGs – 07/0788r0 Consistent process for editorial comment resolution across TGs (WG & Sponsor) – 07/2050r0 Guideline for technical vs. editorial, sample editorial comment responses Format for comment reporting across TGs (WG & Sponsor) – 07/1990r0 (tool in 07/2116r0) Stable numbering method (See 07/2810r0) Consistent naming of redlines (See 07/2810r0) Draft templates for FRAME (no Word) to help train new editors more rapidly Under Construction (in priority order) Revise the editor’s guideline – comments on 09/1034? Mentoring program – Name a mentor for each new editor MIB element numbering and compiling – publish a rolled-up MIB of k/r/y Guideline on non-technical front matter Guideline describing expected editorial development and maturity of draft through stages in 802.11 for consistency across TGs Guidelines for primitives – ARC to consider Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems)

Numbering of Annexes and Clauses July 2007 May 2011 November 2011 Numbering of Annexes and Clauses Proposal: TGMb will fix the ordering of annexes Ample bad precedent set by 11k Bibliography should be the first or final annex per IEEE Standards Style Guide Clause numbering has similar issue during rollup TGn clause 3a, 11r clause 11a, 11y clause 11.9a REVmb numbering will stay using “Amendment style” numbering until the very last possible moment before going to Sponsor Ballot. Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems)

Draft naming convention May 2011 November 2011 Draft naming convention Drafts and redlines are .pdf files Syntax: Draft <project>_<draft> [Redline [Compared to <project>_<draft>]].pdf Examples: Draft P802.11n_D8.0.pdf Draft P802.11n_D8.0 Redline.pdf Draft P802.11n_D7.04 Redline Compared to P802.11n_D7.03.pdf Please use this convention for all drafts posted on the 802.11 website. Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

Lessons Learned from RevCom November 2011 Lessons Learned from RevCom During Sponsor ballot… (see 09/1058r1) Minimise cross references (“disagree – see CID 1234”) Because not all CIDs are included in the “unsatisfied comments” listing, so this may end up a dangling reference. Copy resolution + add (“same as resoution for CID 1234”) Provide full URLs for doc references Because some members of RevCom and the Sponsor Pool may not be familiar with how to get to Mentor Minimise use of doc references Cut and paste from reference doc, where-ever possible. This minimises work for sponsor ballot members getting reference documents. Easier to audit process Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

July 2007 May 2011 November 2011 Publication Work Plan Note: to be included in the editor’s operations manual Here is the workflow we have used for a number of years with IEEE staff on publication of 802.11 publications:  Editors provide FRAME source and any freestanding graphics (Powerpoint, Visio. TIF) to staff at time of REVCOM submission. Editors provide a list of requests editorial corrections no later than REVCOM approval date. Staff prepares a publication draft and highlights changes they have made and questions they need addressed or confirmed. This draft is sent to Task Group Editor and the Working Group Technical Editor (me). This typically occurs about 2-3 weeks after approval for publication, since the preparation work is usually (but not always) begun ahead of approval. This is also typically the draft peer reviewed by IEEE staff. The Task Group Editor responds to all questions on domain specific questions, with copy to Working Group editor (me). This typically takes about 3-5 days. The Working Group Technical Editor reviews responses from the Task Group editor, completes any responses, and provides a list of WG officers and voting members valid for the document as of the opening day of the Sponsor ballot. This typically only takes one additional day from the prior step as most of the work is done in parallel by the two editors. Final draft is submitted by the IEEE staff to Working Group Technical Editor and Task Group Editor for sign-off. Any changes from the responses or IEEE peer review are highlighted and explained. This typically takes only one or two days more after the responses are received from the editors. Task Group Editor gives final approval. No changes are expected. This usually occurs within 24 hours. Working Group Technical Editor signs off and provides draft to Working Group Chair. No changes are expected. This usually occurs within 24 hours and in parallel with the previous step. Working Group Chair sends email to sponsor and IEEE staff letting them know the Working Group has signed off on the publication process. Peter Ecclesine (Cisco) Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems)

Terry Cole on Changes to MIB elements May 2011 November 2011 Terry Cole on Changes to MIB elements You can incrementally add to a MIB element without deprecation at any level. That is, add new values and meaning pairs. You can change the description of a MIB element without deprecation at any level. That is add new text clarifying or even changing the meaning of the element to keep up with the standard. I would advise deprecation when changing the definition of some value of a MIB from one thing to another. However, I don't know of any rules requiring this. Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

Publications: lessons learned May 2011 November 2011 Publications: lessons learned When quoting baseline text inaccurately, the baseline text is changed whether or not the changes were marked. The IEEE staff will actually do the appropriate changes as if the task group had actually intended to change the baseline. Drafts can minimally quote baseline text to minimize such changes Should revisit the decision to include full context during insertion Full Annex titles have to be shown in the amendment; more importantly included “normative” vs. “informative” TGk inadvertently changed Annex A to be fully informative TGr battled to fix Annex A but caused ripples TGy 08-1215r1 has brief review of significant things changed for publication In editor’s operations manual and during balloting, should comment that Annexes should be fully titled with good reason to vote “No” in balloting Slide 28 Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

Publications: lessons learned (cont’d) May 2011 November 2011 Publications: lessons learned (cont’d) Acronym rules are inconsistent Styleguide doesn’t include definitions Every document is treated as standalone, thus first acronym reference must be spelled out. Even though, other amendments or baseline may have defined and used the acronym earlier. Goal should be to have as few changes between the final balloted amendment and final published amendment. How do we deal with subjective decisions made by the IEEE copy editors as their styles vary? Booleans should be capitalized: TRUE and FALSE when “set to” Booleans should be lower case: is true and is false (raise the issue with Style Guide update) Slide 29 Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)

Pre-RevCom IEEE-SA Review November 2011 Pre-RevCom IEEE-SA Review Adrian: not sure we need this slide Possibly near the end of Working Group Letter Ballot (3rd recirc or 4th recirc) , we will offer the draft to the publications editor for review. This allows ambiguities and errors to be addressed in Sponsor Ballot by comments, rather than discover the ambiguities and errors after RevCom. It appears that during MEC is the least risky time for a publication editor’s review. TGs Draft 7.0 went to LB166 out of July plenary, and by agreement with ExCom and IEEE SA staff, went for professional editing for ~50 days, after which Draft 8.0 will be available for recirculation Sponsor Ballot. Our experience with this process led us to have an 802.11 MEC by our 802.11 Technical Editor Peter Ecclesine (Cisco)