Mesh Networking Task Group Process Month 2002 doc.: IEEE 802.11-02/xxxr0 July 2004 Mesh Networking Task Group Process ESS MESH FREE IEEE 802.11 the APs Donald E. Eastlake 3rd <Donald.Eastlake@motorola.com> <dee3@torque.pothole.com> +1-508-786-7554 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola John Doe, His Company
Generic Process of Getting to Letter Ballot Month 2002 doc.: IEEE 802.11-02/xxxr0 July 2004 Generic Process of Getting to Letter Ballot Adoption of PAR and 5 Criteria Technical Presentations and Discussions Specify Any Additional Requirements and Comparison Criteria Call For Proposals Select/Combine from Submitted Complete/Partial Proposals to Produce a Draft Refine Draft Letter Ballot Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola John Doe, His Company
802.11 Example Project Histories Month 2002 doc.: IEEE 802.11-02/xxxr0 July 2004 802.11 Example Project Histories (Figure above by Bruce Kramer.) 11s 24-Jun-04 May/July 05 Nov 06 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola John Doe, His Company
Goals for July 2004 Meeting Adopted By ESS Mesh SG in May Month 2002 doc.: IEEE 802.11-02/xxxr0 July 2004 Goals for July 2004 Meeting Adopted By ESS Mesh SG in May July (Portland, Oregon) Usage Cases and Functional Requirements discussion Adopt Initial Definitions document Architecture Presentations Other ad-hoc subgroup results and Presentations Joint Meeting with 802.11r, etc. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola John Doe, His Company
Future Schedule as Discussed at May 2004 Meeting Month 2002 doc.: IEEE 802.11-02/xxxr0 July 2004 Future Schedule as Discussed at May 2004 Meeting September 2004 (Berlin, German) Adopt Functional Requirements / Evaluation Criteria document Adopt Skeleton “Pre-Draft” Other ad-hoc subgroup results Call for Proposals issued immediately after meeting with deadline for submission of two weeks before the November meeting. November 2004 (San Antonio, Texas) Presentation of Proposals January 2005 (Monterey, California) Condensation of Proposals -> Draft 0.1 March 2005 (Atlanta, Georgia) Refinement of Draft (May 2005 (Sydney, Australia) Letter Ballot Authorized?) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola John Doe, His Company
Ad Hoc Subgroups and Internal TGs Actions Month 2002 doc.: IEEE 802.11-02/xxxr0 July 2004 Ad Hoc Subgroups and Internal TGs Actions Ad Hoc Subgroups Have no special status unless TGs votes on them or their output. Any group of 802.11 members can get together and make submissions. Within the Policies and Procedures (11-04/510r0), we can do what we want internally: “Adopted” internal TGs motions/documents can be amended by majority with notice (i.e., if change is on agenda) or 2/3 vote without notice. We can issue a call for proposals With no requirements other than the PAR & 5 Criteria With some guidelines With detailed requirements We can have “Functional Requirements Document” that is a general or specific as we like. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola John Doe, His Company
Informal Ad Hoc Subgroups Month 2002 doc.: IEEE 802.11-02/xxxr0 July 2004 Informal Ad Hoc Subgroups Usage Cases – coordinator Steve Conner <w.steven.conner@intel.com> “Usage Models”, 11-04/764r1 and 11-04/662r7 Definitions – coordinator Tricci So <tricciso@tadiantzone.com> “Draft Terms and Definitions for 802.11s”, 11-04/730r1 “Additional Draft Terms & Terminology for 802.11s”, 11-04/822r0 Quality of Service / 802.11e – coordinator Lily Yang <lily.l.yang@intel.com> “MAC considerations for 11s”, 11-04/760r0 Security / 802.11i, 802.1ae, 802.1af – coordinators Bob Moskowitz <rgm@trusecure.com>, Jasmeet Chhabra <jasmeet.chhabra@intel.com> “802.11s Security Ad Hoc”, 11-04/826r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola John Doe, His Company
Informal Ad Hoc Subgroups (cont.) Month 2002 doc.: IEEE 802.11-02/xxxr0 July 2004 Informal Ad Hoc Subgroups (cont.) Routing – coordinator Tyan-Shu Jou <tsjou@janusysnetworks.com>, Tricci So <tricciso@tadiantzone.com> “802.11s Routing Sub-Group Discussion on May 04”, 11-04/765r0 Other 802.11k, 802.11h /Radio Resources/Metrics – coordinator WNM, CAPWAP /Management – coordinator The above groups may be using the following wiki page: http://ieee.comnets.rwth-aachen.de/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AdHocGroups Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola John Doe, His Company
Ad Hoc Subgroups Output Month 2002 doc.: IEEE 802.11-02/xxxr0 July 2004 Ad Hoc Subgroups Output Some Possible Dispositions of Ad Hoc Subgroup Output submissions (as amended if desired) are as for any other submissions: Adopt as mandatory for proposal conformance Adopt as an internal working document Include in a TGs “Recommended Reading List” No action Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola John Doe, His Company
Calling for Proposals in September? Month 2002 doc.: IEEE 802.11-02/xxxr0 July 2004 Calling for Proposals in September? If a call for proposals is to be issued shortly after the September meeting, we should issue a warning at this meeting that we plan to do that. Proposals obviously must conform to the PAR and 5 Criteria. Will we have a Functional Requirements or Evaluation Criteria Document? What other documents, if any, should be referenced by the Call for Proposals? Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola John Doe, His Company
Possibilities to Accelerate TGs Month 2002 doc.: IEEE 802.11-02/xxxr0 July 2004 Possibilities to Accelerate TGs Possibilities for TGs Between July and September Meetings to accelerate action : One Teleconference Ad-hoc face to face meeting (requires 30 days notice (P&P clause 3.6.2)) Multiple Teleconferences (require 10 days notice, cannot be held more often than weekly (P&P clause 3.6.3)) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola John Doe, His Company
July 2004 Possible Liaison 802.15.5 is working on mesh across the 802.15.2/3/4 protocols. Do we want a liaison with them? Is there someone willing to serve? Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Informational Queries / Straw Polls Proposers? July 2004 Informational Queries / Straw Polls Proposers? If a TGs call for proposals was issued right after the September meeting with a deadline shortly before the November meeting, how many would submit a proposal? Reasonably certain – 4 50/50 – 10 Might but probably not – 3 If call was issued after November meeting with deadline before the January meeting? Reasonably certain – 13 50/50 – 4 Might but probably not – 4 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Informational Queries / Straw Polls Usage Cases July 2004 Informational Queries / Straw Polls Usage Cases Is documenting Usage Cases important? Yes 48-0 Is each category important? Residential – 36 Office – 43 Campus/Community/Public Access – 42 Public Safety – 34 Car to Car – 7 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Informational Queries / Straw Polls Informal Group Submissions Status July 2004 Informational Queries / Straw Polls Informal Group Submissions Status What should be the status of relevant submissions from informal groups if a majority of TGs agrees with the submission? Strongly included as part of call for proposals – 12 Adopted as internal working documents – 29 Included on a TGs recommended reading list – 3 No special status – 2 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Informational Queries / Straw Polls When to call for Proposals? July 2004 Informational Queries / Straw Polls When to call for Proposals? What is the current feeling of TGs as to when we should call for proposals? In favor/against vote on each: July 2004 – 3-31 September 2004 – 10-28 November 2004 – 16-10 January 2005 – 8-1 Should the call for proposals require that they be complete? 18-19 (almost a tie) How long should the window be for submitting proposals? 2 months – 2 4 months – 17 6 months – 10 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Month 2002 doc.: IEEE 802.11-02/xxxr0 July 2004 Future Schedule? There was no disagreement with the September goals shown below: September 2004 (Berlin, German) Discuss Functional Requirements / Evaluation Criteria document Usage Cases and Requirements Routing QoS/MAC Enhacements Security Definitions Skeleton “Pre-Draft” November 2004 (San Antonio, Texas) Call for Proposals issued immediately after meeting with deadline for submission of two weeks before the March meeting? January 2005 (Monterey, California) Presentation of Proposals March 2005 (Atlanta, Georgia) Selection from Drafts May 2005 (Sydney, Australia) Refinement of Draft July 2005 (San Francisco, California) Letter Ballot Authorized? Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola John Doe, His Company
Informational Queries / Straw Polls Activity Before September July 2004 Informational Queries / Straw Polls Activity Before September How active should the task group be before the September meeting? No official activity One teleconference Multiple teleconferences Face-to-face ad hoc meeting Moved by Peter Ecclesine, W. Steven Conner One teleconference: Wednesday, 25 August, 3pm Pacific Daylight Time (PDT). Passes 18-0-2 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola