Law Enforcement Sensitive Austin 05-43 Interrogating Suspected Countermeasures Cases For Official Use Only Law Enforcement Sensitive

What is a “Countermeasure?” Austin 05-43 What is a “Countermeasure?” Course definition Agency policy Does your agency have a written CM policy? For Official Use Only Law Enforcement Sensitive

Policy Points to Consider Austin 05-43 Policy Points to Consider Advisements, Warnings, Final Warnings Adjudication of CM admissions Time management Know what weight your Agency will give to both suspected and confirmed cases Poll the class on what their agency’s policy is on warnings. Poll the class on how their agency addresses suspected and confirmed use of CMs. For Official Use Only Law Enforcement Sensitive

Law Enforcement Sensitive Austin 05-43 Interrogation Tracks When you only suspect… Proceed with caution Provide non-threatening reminder Collect more data Seek a second opinion Probe They say some folks are so numb, they haven’t got a clue. Hubert’s so numb, he doesn’t even suspect! Michigan airport case. This was a three series TES. Didn’t like what I was seeing after TES-A, but couldn’t put a finger on it, so I ran TES-B. After collecting TES-C, I probed with, “sometimes people come to poly planning to tell 100% truth, but get scared…” and I saw a buy sign. For Official Use Only Law Enforcement Sensitive

Law Enforcement Sensitive Austin 05-43 Interrogation Tracks When you think you know… Warning required? If yes, was it given? If no, provide and recollect data Regard your customer’s expectations If appropriate, interrogate! What’s the goal of the interrogation? Discuss the importance of interrogating on RQ response vs. Cms. For Official Use Only Law Enforcement Sensitive

Law Enforcement Sensitive Austin 05-43 What’s the Goal? Confirm your suspicion! Who? What? When? Where? Why? How? Who told him? What did they tell him to do? What did he actually do/how was it done? (Don’t be content with just one answer) When/Where/at What questions was it done? What was expected outcome? When did he make the decision to employ CMs? (Days/weeks prior to test day or spur of the moment?) Why did he do it/what was he trying to hide? For Official Use Only Law Enforcement Sensitive

Law Enforcement Sensitive Austin 05-43 What’s the Order? Listen for “buzz words” Obtain admission to a conduct Acquire Subject’s understanding of the process Have Subject relate where/when the activity was employed Ask when s/he decided to employ the tactic Get the why I’ve had good luck with, “this is NOT normal physiology. Your body would NEVER do this involuntarily.” Explain the photo ID analogy. Acquire Subject’s understanding w/o leading him to the answers: tell me about the question types we used today tell me what each type is used for—how will I use these questions? (if TES, you’ve already done this) listen for terms of art/buzz words: “control question, directed lie, probable lie, relevant question, irrelevant question, reaction, response, false positive” and never use these terms yourself during your pretest. For Official Use Only Law Enforcement Sensitive

Law Enforcement Sensitive Austin 05-43 Guidelines Use euphemistic terms Use analogies to which Subject can relate Plan on the process taking at least an hour Think as your customer will (don’t waste time seeking non-valued info) Acquire the truth Initially, avoid terms that could raise the S’s fear of making admissions: Ask the class, what terms might we use in a CM interrogation that could scare the S into silence? (countermeasure, defeat the test, manipulate the data, quoting anti poly websites) Analogies: snowball rolling down a hill, digging a hole in beach sand, sinking ship. For Official Use Only Law Enforcement Sensitive

Law Enforcement Sensitive Austin 05-43 Themes You got bad information, not your fault You were afraid of a false positive You like to experiment with things You were only trying to be helpful You were curious about what would happen Self explanatory For Official Use Only Law Enforcement Sensitive

Law Enforcement Sensitive Austin 05-43 Guidelines Don’t give up!!! Quitters get exactly what they deserve: Nothing! For Official Use Only Law Enforcement Sensitive