Orsay Talks Christophe : General questions and future developments.

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Orsay Talks Christophe : General questions and future developments. Dominique : Last measurements on the Wave Catcher board. Christophe Beigbeder 16 Juin 2009

Naïve questions/ remarks We have two different systems to design for the PID. For the forward : Analog memories seem the only possible option to: Reach the time resolution of 30 ps. Associate the charge measurement. Drawback : the trigger rate is relatively low ( readout ) but ok for us ? For the Barrel : Time resolution : ~100 ps for the electronics Charge measurement foreseen for all the channels ? Trigger rate compatible only with a TDC structure ? Ongoing work on the MAPMT. Hope to have a setup in Orsay. Could the two designs be the same ? Pros and Cons could be listed. What’s the urgency of making a choice ? Drawback of having high performance analog memories for the Barrel - Time and charge measurement naturally associated - Payload of the high resolution ( amount of data ) - Cost of having only one chip developed for the 2 solutions. Christophe Beigbeder 16 Juin 2009

Tests board at SLAC If we want to keep these 2 options open, -> What do we want to test at SLAC ? A possible design for the barrel based on the SNATS, before preparing a specific version of the chip based on the same principles Design a simple board with limited requirements : few channels , no charge measurement. A more complicated one, close to a first prototype ? A board for the forward PID based on the SAM chip. See Dominique’s talk => new results and performances. Christophe Beigbeder 16 Juin 2009

∆t resolution degraded by a Time stamper vs TDC TDC : time measured between a Start & a Stop Time Stamper : absolute time measurement SuperNemo experiment: 2 events will be stamped  ∆t = t2- t1   t =  √2 t1 t2 ∆t ∆t resolution degraded by a factor of √2 ∆t = t2- t1 Christophe Beigbeder 16 Juin 2009

Requirements for SuperNemo Calorimeter Time Measurements : time resolution < 100ps RMS Requirements for SNATS : SNATS résolution  time résolution / √2  70ps RMS LSB  200ps Christophe Beigbeder 16 Juin 2009

SNATS performance summary Technology Process: AMS CMOS 0.35µm Clock Frequency: 160MHz Number of cells: 32 ( limited by the INL ) Dynamic Range: 53 bits 48 clock counter bits 5 interpolator bits Time coverage: 20 days LSB = 250ps DNL < 10% Channels per chip = 16 Dead time per channel : 400ns . 16 *400 per 16 channels Production : shared run as for Babar. 67 Euros / chip based on a recent production of ~500 chips . Not “ naturally “ protected against SEL. Test of the SNATS in beam as it has been done in LHCb and will be done for the upgrade. Christophe Beigbeder 16 Juin 2009

A very preliminary 16 channel test board synopsis When needed ? 64 Channels ? A very preliminary 16 channel test board synopsis USB2/1 - VME Need to be linked to The local Daq ? Firmware : what do we do When needed ? Early 2010 Christophe Beigbeder 16 Juin 2009

Next steps Development of 2 setups for SLAC. Development of a TDC for the barrel ? Proposal for the integration of the PID electronics in ETD architecture. Christophe Beigbeder 16 Juin 2009