Putting Some Reality into the Glare and Visibility Debate

Slides:



Advertisements
Similar presentations
Comments on GRE/2012/27 (Lighting & Signalling WG) Headlamp Initial Aiming October 2012 Informal document No. GRE (68th GRE, October 2012,
Advertisements

Simplification of Regulations Light Sources Regulations Nos. 37, 99, 128 Clarification 8 April 2015 GRE IWG SLR Informal Working Group Simplification of.
Analysis of the influence of aiming, on visibility distance and glare Poland 65 GRE, 29 March 2011 Dr EngTomasz Targosinski Informal document No. GRE
AFS Main Beam (Driving Beam) Improvements Presentation to WP th Session November 2008 Informal document No. WP th WP.29, November.
THE SOCIETY OF MOTOR MANUFACTURERS AND TRADERS LIMITEDPAGE 1 Poland: comments on OICA comments on GRE/2012/27 Headlamp Initial Aiming and leveling tolerances.
Simplification of lighting and light signalling Regulations (SLR): options and issues Transmitted by the GRE Chair Informal document WP (166th.
Process of a Bill Parliamentary Law Making – Legislative Process © The Law Bank Parliamentary Law Making Process of a bill 1.
19 TH – 20 TH June 2007 GRE IWG Operating Voltage Strategic Plan & Timeline Proposal - Meeting #1 OVIG GRE-OVIG-Working Paper No (1 st.
Draft progress report of GRSG informal group on Accident Emergency Call System (AECS) Transmitted by chair of IWG AECS Informal document GRSG-106-ХХ 106.
Progress report of GRSG informal group on Accident Emergency Call System (AECS) Transmitted by the Chair of AECS IWG Informal document GRSG
Introduction to Revision of GTR 7
Document: SLR Date: Author: Geoff Draper (GTB) Simplification of Lighting and Light-Signalling Regulations A proposed work plan for discussion.
Transmitted by the expert from GTB Informal Document No. GRE (64th GRE, 4-7 October 2010, agenda item 5(f)) Proposal for Amendments to Regulations.
Outcome of 2nd session of the IWG VGL April 04, 2016 in Geneva
G T B The International Automotive Lighting and Light Signalling Expert Group Groupe de Travail “Bruxelles 1952” GTB Working Group Light Sources Extension.
Input from IWG-DETA received 16 November 2016
Simplification of ECE Type Approval Marking
National Traffic Safety and Environment Laboratory
Informal document GRE-77-31
Simplification of approval markings
The Opportunity of a Lifetime
Comments on GRE/2012/27(Lighting & Signalling WG)
Simplification of Lighting and Light-Signalling Regulations
MSc in Social Research Methods
Simplification of Lighting and Light-Signalling Regulations
Simplification of Lighting and Light-Signalling Regulations
Informal document No. 9 (50th GRE, 7-11 April 2003, agenda item 3.2.)
Analysis of the Polish proposal. GRE2016/18
Informal document GRE-74-13
GRE Informal Working Group „Simplification of Regulation“
GRE Informal Working Group „Simplification of Regulation“
Status Report to GRB #68 Task Force on Reverse Warning issues
Status of the IWG VGL April 03, 2017
Informal document GRPE-74-20
Mandatory Application of the Unique Identifier (UI)
Underlying Principles of Approval Marking for the LSD Regulation
Simplification of the UN Lighting and Light-signalling Regulations
SUMMARY OF INITIAL AIMING AND LEVELLING TOLERANCE ISSUE
Informal document GRE-79-04
Rear direction indicator lamp and stop lamp separation
Chair: Jin Seop Park, Republic of Korea Secretary: Thomas Kinsky, OICA
ASEP IWG Report to GRB 65th
Introduction to Revision of GTR 7
Additional light source type headlamp
Simplification of Lighting and Light-Signalling Regulations
ASEP, from 2005 to 2019 Background informations and future works
Transmitted by the IWVTA Informal Group
ESF INFORMAL TWG Prague, 2-3 April 2009 Lump sums grants
Discussion of OBD2 by “Correspondence Group” Japan’s proposal
Additional Explanations to ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRE/2016/35
Background During last GRPE meeting, EU, Japan and Korea requested the creation of an RDE IWG The GRPE accepted the proposal during its June 2018 meeting.
SIMPLIFICATION. Status after GTB WG FL meeting November 28th , 2018
Analysis of the Polish proposal. GRE2016/18
ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRE/2013/57 Alternative aiming/leveling (explanations)
Supplementary Document
Simplification of Lighting and Light-Signalling Regulations
Simplification of the UN Lighting and Light-signalling Regulations
GRE Informal Working Group „Simplification of Regulation“
Informal document GRSG Rev.1
Transmitted by the expert from the India
BOX JUSTIFICATION for GRE-81-13
Informal document GRSG
Simplification of Lighting and Light-Signalling Regulations
Simplification of Lighting and Light-Signalling Regulations
IMMA proposal for amendments
SLR-21-08/Rev Transmitted by The International Automotive Lighting and Light-signalling Expert Group Preparation of a detailed proposal concerning.
Status of the IWG VGL October 24, 2016
Status of the IWG VGL October 24, 2017
Informal document GRE-79-xx
OICA Comments to GRE/2017/17 and GRE/2017/22
Presentation transcript:

Putting Some Reality into the Glare and Visibility Debate GRE IWG “Simplification of the UN Lighting and Light-Signalling Regulations” (SLR) Document SLR-32-10 Date: 2019-08-30 Submitted by GTB Putting Some Reality into the Glare and Visibility Debate Note: Part of this document (specifically pages 2 to 11 inclusive) was introduced at the SLR 31st session to offer an introduction to the discussion concerning agenda Item 14 on the subject of Headlamp levelling. As the document presented to the 31st session did not offer any new information it was not submitted for publication. However, to respond to the complaints of lack of transparency by the representative of Poland, GTB is now submitting this version that includes a proposal on how the IWG-SLR could decide to proceed. This document should be considered in combination with the document SLR-31-11e submitted by GTB.

GRE 73rd Session, April 2015, Agenda item 6b. OICA/GTB did not have the opportunity to present GRE/2015/5 and the detailed supporting justification in GRE-73-06 but Poland was given the opportunity to present its informal documents GRE-73-18 and GRE-73-28 (responding to GRE/2015/5). This meant that Poland was objecting to the OICA / GTB proposal before GRE experts were given the opportunity to understand the depth of the detailed study and calculations that had been carried out by GTB using the method developed by CIE TC4-45 and published as CIE S 021.

These two diagrams are misleading due to their different scaling

0.4% (0.212 deg.) upward inclination The diagrams of GRE/2019/03 and GRE- 81-21 superimposed It is important to appreciate the actual values being debated. The values highlighted in Yellow are angles in degrees of arc. i.e. the gap between the initial aim upper and lower limits of the blue box is 0.9 degrees! This is already a major challenge for the vehicle manufacturers. 0.4% (0.212 deg.) upward inclination

HISTORY of the GRE debate Scientifically produced proposal based upon CIE procedure GRE has not considered a serious study by GTB Immediate compromises introduced to satisfy personal theories to provide governments with responses to complaints from the public concerning glare. More adjustments because of attempts by GRE to satisfy the objections of Poland

The results of calculations based upon real lamp photometry using the CIE S 021 procedure. These red lines are justified on scientifically based grounds. Poland is the only CP to have challenged these results. GRE73-06 APRIL 2015

The results of calculations based upon real lamp photometry using the CIE S 021 procedure. Data points removed for clarity GRE73-06 APRIL 2015

The results of calculations based upon real lamp photometry using the CIE S 021 procedure. The curved boundaries derived from the calculations were simplified into a parallelogram as shown here GRE73-06 APRIL 2015

GRE73-06 APRIL 2015 The results of calculations based upon real lamp photometry using the CIE S 021 procedure. The curved boundaries derived from the calculations were simplified into a parallelogram as shown here

GRE73-06 APRIL 2015 With GRE-81-21 Superimposed The results of calculations based upon real lamp photometry using the CIE S 021 procedure. The RED parallelogram has been modified to become the green dashed shape by arbitrary negotiation without any scientific justification.

HISTORY of the GRE debate The arguments submitted by Poland continue without a scientifically justified basis and the conclusions of GTB, based upon scientific evidence continue to be ignored. At the SLR-24 session GTB presented its views on the approach to glare and visibility issues in document SLR-24-06. GTB explained why the current balance between glare and visibility cannot be significantly changed in the context of current (non-adaptive) headlamp technologies. This GTB work is based upon scientific, peer reviewed, methods and is validated by evaluation of the performance of a range of headlamp designs and technologies. Again, Poland tries to invalidate this work with its usual unjustified comments and continues to block progress in GRE.

Proposal for a way forward The debate on Glare and Visibility issues (associated with the debate relating to mandatory installation of static automatic levelling) pre-dates 2010. After 9 years of debate at GRE, GRE-IWG-VGL and GRE-IWG-SLR, no progress has been made and the same arguments from Poland remain. GTB is preparing proposals to improve the Glare / Visibility balance as part of the GRE-SLR Stage 2 programme. GTB has submitted the proposal for a way forward in SLR-31-11. This proposes to: complete Stage 2 simplification that will offer improvements to improve the Glare / Visibility balance for existing headlamp technologies launch a new GRE Informal Group to develop a technology neutral vehicle based performance requirements that will be applicable to all existing technologies and expected innovations. These technical requirements SHALL be compatible with the terms of the 1958 and 1998 agreements. Is it now appropriate for GRE to seek a conclusion by means of a democratic vote of the CPs, based upon the principles proposed in SLR-31-11?