Does Suffering Make Sense? Chapter 21 Presented by David M. Hasz Written by Charles Colson.

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Does Suffering Make Sense? Chapter 21 Presented by David M. Hasz Written by Charles Colson

The Problem What problem was on Einstein’s mind? What problem was on Einstein’s mind? What was his view of God? What was his view of God? Where did Einstein think evil came from? Where did Einstein think evil came from?

The Big 5 Answers #1: Deny that God exists at all. #1: Deny that God exists at all. Problems? Problems? If no God then no evil exists either - moral relativism. If no God then no evil exists either - moral relativism.

#2 Deny that suffering exists: Deny that suffering exists: Seems silly - true human experience does not prove this out. Seems silly - true human experience does not prove this out.

#2 A Christian Scientist does not allow any metal pain or guilt to exist. A Christian Scientist does not allow any metal pain or guilt to exist. Problems? Problems?

#3 Place God beyond evil and good: Place God beyond evil and good: If God is beyond them, then they are quirks of our mind - If God is beyond them, then they are quirks of our mind - Problems? Problems?

#4 God’s power is limited: God’s power is limited: This is supported and a growing movement. This is supported and a growing movement.

#4 Cont. Process Theology?? Process Theology?? When bad things happen to good people When bad things happen to good people Problems?? Problems??

#5 God has created evil to achieve a greater good. God has created evil to achieve a greater good.

#5 Cont. Would you serve a God that allows a child to suffer to teach something? Would you serve a God that allows a child to suffer to teach something? Problems? Problems?

Real Answers There must be a source of evil outside of God. There must be a source of evil outside of God. We are free to make decisions that actually start processes. Adam and Eve were the genuine first cause of evil on earth. We are free to make decisions that actually start processes. Adam and Eve were the genuine first cause of evil on earth.

Consequences? What does that mean? What does that mean? Why did God give us the ability to sin? Why did God give us the ability to sin?

Consequences? What would a lack of free will result in? What would a lack of free will result in? What did divine justice call for? What did divine justice call for?

Why? Why did God chose to do it this way? Why did God chose to do it this way? Should He not have known this would happen? Should He not have known this would happen?

What did God choose? God judged it better to bring good out of evil than to suffer no evil at all. God judged it better to bring good out of evil than to suffer no evil at all. Why? Why?

LOVE John 3:16 John 3:16 God loves us so much that he wanted us to have freedom to chose Him. God loves us so much that he wanted us to have freedom to chose Him.

Love brings Questions Consequences? Consequences? Problems? Problems?

Practical Worldview’s Political Correctness Political Correctness Speaking into your life Speaking into your life Internship not a democracy Internship not a democracy Rights – Privacy, Feel Good Rights – Privacy, Feel Good God as an excuse God as an excuse