doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 Slide 1 IEEE WG responses to SC6 on FDIS ballots on aa/ad/ae 13 May 2014 Authors: NameCompanyPhone
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 This document contains the IEEE WG’s responses to the FDIS ballots on IEEE aa/ad/ae The following pages contain the IEEE WG’s responses the SC6 NBs to the FDIS ballots, undertaken according to the PSDO agreement between IEEE and ISO, on –IEEE aa –IEEE ad –IEEE ae SC6 NBs are welcome to provide any additional comments on these amendment to IEEE by sending comments to IEEE TGmc –For further details please contact the Chair of IEEE TGmc, Dorothy Stanley Individual associated with SC6 NBs are always encouraged to participate directly in the activities of the IEEE WG –For further details please contact the Chair of IEEE WG, Adrian Stephens Slide 2
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The following pages contain the IEEE WG’s responses to the FDIS ballot on IEEE aa The FDIS ballot, undertaken according to the PSDO agreement between IEEE and ISO, on IEEE aa passed on 28 January 2014 The voting results are contained in 6N15884, and included comments from the China NB The following pages contain the IEEE WG’s responses to those comments, satisfying the process defined in 6N15606 Slide 3
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The China NB provided comment CN.1 on IEEE aa China NB comment CN.1 on IEEE aa Since the procedural and technical concerns China NB proposed in 6N15602 still haven’t been reasonably disposed in this FDAM text, and referencing issues mentioned below exist in this text, so China NB has to vote against on this FDAM ballot. If these issues could not be disposed reasonably and this proposal would have been passing the FDAM ballot, it is regretful for China to be obliged to lose the responsibility and obligation of complying with and adopting the standard. Furthermore, China NB wishes to state for the record. Slide 4
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 IEEE WG offers a response to CN.1 on IEEE aa IEEE 802 response to CN.1 on IEEE aa IEEE 802 thanks the China NB for its carefully considered comments on the aa FDIS ballot We note that the IEEE 802 responded in 6N15647 to all comments submitted by the China NB in 6N Per the agreement in 6N15606, China NB representatives are invited to participate in the IEEE 802 comment resolution process. We have noted the comment that the China NB is “obliged to lose the responsibility and obligation of complying with and adopting the standard”. It is out of scope for IEEE 802 and therefore we will forward it to ISO Central Secretariat. Slide 5
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The China NB provided comment CN.2 on IEEE aa China NB comment CN.2 on IEEE aa The referenced RFC 5869 is informational standard. The referenced RFC 2409, RFC 3376 are proposed standards. All of above listed RFC standards are unqualified for normative references in ISO standards. Delete the referenced RFC and related technology from the document. Slide 6
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 IEEE WG offers a response to CN.2 on IEEE aa IEEE 802 response to CN.2 on IEEE aa We note that ISO and JTC1 referencing rules allow references to informational, proposed standard and draft standard IETF RFCs IEEE 802 standards are developed according to the IEEE SA standards development process and IEEE-SA Standards Style Manual, and the PSDO agreement accepts the formatting and referencing rules of the IEEE-SA. The IEEE-SA referencing rules also allow references to informational, proposed standard and draft standard IETF RFCs As part of the normal maintenance process for IEEE 802 standards, the relevant 802 WG reviews the references to ensure that only required RFC references are included, RFC references are up to date, and normative RFC references have an appropriate status. Slide 7
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The following pages contain the IEEE WG’s responses to the FDIS ballot on IEEE ad The FDIS ballot, undertaken according to the PSDO agreement between IEEE and ISO, on IEEE ad passed on 28 January 2014 The voting results are contained in 6N15885, and included comments from the China NB and the Switzerland NB The following pages contain the IEEE WG’s responses to those comments, satisfying the process defined in 6N15606 Slide 8
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The China NB provided comment CN.1 on IEEE ad China NB comment CN.1 on IEEE ad Since the procedural and technical concerns China NB proposed in 6N15601 still haven’t been reasonably disposed in this FDAM text, and referencing issues mentioned below exist in this text, so China NB has to vote against on this FDAM ballot. If these issues could not be disposed reasonably and this proposal would have been passing the FDAM ballot, it is regretful for China to be obliged to lose the responsibility and obligation of complying with and adopting the standard. Furthermore, China NB wishes to state for the record. Slide 9
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 IEEE WG offers a response to CN.1 on IEEE ad Proposed IEEE 802 response to CN.1 on IEEE ad IEEE 802 thanks the China NB for its carefully considered comments on the ad FDIS ballot We note that the IEEE 802 responded in 6N15647 to all comments submitted by the China NB in 6N15601 Per the agreement in 6N15606, China NB representatives are invited to participate in the IEEE 802 comment resolution process. We have noted the comment that the China NB is “obliged to lose the responsibility and obligation of complying with and adopting the standard”. It is out of scope for IEEE 802 and therefore we will forward it to ISO Central Secretariat. Slide 10
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The China NB provided comment CN.2 on IEEE ad China NB comment CN.2 on IEEE ad The referenced RFC 4017 is informational standard, which is unqualified for normative references in ISO standards. Delete the referenced RFC and related technology from the document. Slide 11
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 IEEE WG offers a response to CN.2 on IEEE ad IEEE 802 response to CN.2 on IEEE ad We note that ISO and JTC1 referencing rules allow references to informational, proposed standard and draft standard IETF RFCs IEEE 802 standards are developed according to the IEEE SA standards development process and IEEE-SA Standards Style Manual, and the PSDO agreement accepts the formatting and referencing rules of the IEEE-SA. The IEEE-SA referencing rules also allow references to informational, proposed standard and draft standard IETF RFCs As part of the normal maintenance process for IEEE 802 standards, the relevant 802 WG reviews the references to ensure that only required RFC references are included, RFC references are up to date, and normative RFC references have an appropriate status. Slide 12
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The Swiss NB provided comment CH.1 on IEEE ad Swiss NB comment CH.1 on IEEE ad In a conventional DIS or DIS fast-track ballot, the sub-sequent comments would be issued with a DISAPPROVE vote, which would be turned into APPROVAL if the comments were satisfactorily resolved. The FDIS fast-track however postpones, by 2.7 of the ISO/IEC Directives, Part 1, such resolution to the next review of the standard. Furthermore, affirmative votes to an FDIS cannot be made conditional on the resolution of any comments. However, we wish ISO/IEC to endorse this standard and to subjugate it under its maintenance procedures as set forth in F.2.4 of the ISO/IEC Directives, Part 1, and Sc6 Graz Resolution Therefore our vote is APPROVE, unconditionally. Our comments are submitted under the late option of 6N15606 to be processed by the IEEE (sic) WG as soon as possible, i.e. either during comment resolution on any subsequent draft or during normal maintenance. Slide 13
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 IEEE WG offers a response to CH.1 on IEEE ad IEEE 802 response to CH.1 on IEEE ad IEEE 802 thanks the Switzerland NB for its carefully considered comments on the IEEE ad FDIS ballot, and assures the Switzerland NB that its comments will be processed in a timely manner by the IEEE WG using the mechanisms defined and agreed in N Swiss NB representatives are invited to participate in the maintenance process for IEEE ad. Slide 14
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The Swiss NB provided comment CH.2 on IEEE ad Swiss NB comment CH.2 on IEEE ad As an Amendment to ISO/IEC/IEEE this specification must comply to the ISO Directives, Part 2, “Rules for the structure and drafting of International Standards” as well as the JTC 1 Supplement and the relevant JTC 1 Standing Documents. It is desirable that the next revision of the specification be in line with the applicable requirements. This is a major aim of our comments. We will be pleased to find resolutions in fruitful collaboration with the IEEE WG. Slide 15
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 IEEE WG offers a response to CH.2 on IEEE ad IEEE 802 response to CH.2 on IEEE ad IEEE 802 standards are developed according to the IEEE SA standards development process and IEEE-SA Standards Style Manual, and the PSDO agreement accepts the formatting and referencing rules of the IEEE-SA. Slide 16
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The Swiss NB provided comment CH.3 on IEEE ad Swiss NB comment CH.3 on IEEE ad NIST is not an ARO, therefore the reference does not comply with JTC1 Standing Document N5. Chose one of the following alternative actions: –Produce an RER according to JTC1 Standing Document N5. –Reference published standards, preferably ISO/IEC standards –Incorporate technical requirements into the standard text. Slide 17
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 IEEE WG offers a response to CH.3 on IEEE ad IEEE 802 response to CH.3 on IEEE ad IEEE 802 standards are developed according to the IEEE SA standards development process and IEEE-SA Standards Style Manual, and the PSDO agreement accepts the formatting and referencing rules of the IEEE-SA. This comment has been referred to IEEE TGmc for further consideration. Slide 18
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The Swiss NB provided comment CH.4 on IEEE ad Swiss NB comment CH.4 on IEEE ad The reference to FIPS 140 does not comply with JTC1 Standing Document N5. Choose one of the following alternative actions: –Produce an RER according to JTC1 Standing Document N5. –Reference ISO/IEC and incorporate a generic PP (Protection Profile) into the standard text. Slide 19
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 IEEE WG offers a response to CH.4 on IEEE ad IEEE 802 response to CH.4 on IEEE ad IEEE 802 standards are developed according to the IEEE SA standards development process and IEEE-SA Standards Style Manual, and the PSDO agreement accepts the formatting and referencing rules of the IEEE-SA. This comment has been referred to IEEE TGmc for further consideration Slide 20
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The Swiss NB provided comment CH.5 on IEEE ad Swiss NB comment CH.5 on IEEE ad The phrasing of most definitions does not conform to the ISO/IEC Directives, Part 2. Discard articles (“a”, “the”) at the beginning of the definition. Avoid two or more sentences. Discard Notes. Do not re-define terms (such as OID) in the scope of existing standards, but include them by normative reference. Slide 21
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 IEEE WG offers a response to CH.5 on IEEE ad IEEE 802 response to CH.5 on IEEE ad IEEE 802 standards are developed according to the IEEE SA standards development process and IEEE-SA Standards Style Manual, and the PSDO agreement accepts the formatting and referencing rules of the IEEE-SA. Slide 22
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The following pages contain the IEEE WG’s responses to the FDIS ballot on IEEE ae The FDIS ballot, undertaken according to the PSDO agreement between IEEE and ISO, on IEEE ad passed on 28 January 2014 The voting results are contained in 6N15883, and included comments from the China NB The following pages contain the IEEE WG’s responses to those comments, satisfying the process defined in 6N15606 Slide 23
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 The China NB provided comment CN.1 on IEEE ae China NB comment CN.1 on IEEE ae Since the procedural and technical concerns China NB proposed in 6N15599 still haven’t been reasonably disposed in this FDAM text, so China NB has to vote against on this FDAM ballot. If these issues could not be disposed reasonably and this proposal would have been passing the FDAM ballot, it is regretful for China to be obliged to lose the responsibility and obligation of complying with and adopting the standard. Furthermore, China NB wishes to state for the record. Slide 24
doc.: IEEE /0552r1 Submission May 2014 IEEE WG offers a response to CN.1 on IEEE ae IEEE 802 response to CN.1 on IEEE ae IEEE 802 thanks the China NB for its carefully considered comments on the ae FDIS ballot We note that in 6N15647 the IEEE 802 responded to all comments submitted by the China NB in 6N15599 Per the agreement in 6N15606, China NB representatives are invited to participate in the IEEE 802 comment resolution process. We have noted the comment that the China NB is “obliged to lose the responsibility and obligation of complying with and adopting the standard”. It is out of scope for IEEE 802 and therefore we will forward it to ISO Central Secretariat. Slide 25