OEM Perspective Will it work in my engine? Ian Loy Caterpillar Account Manager, ATA Environment KRA, Truck Industry Council Board Alternative Fuels Workshop.

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OEM Perspective Will it work in my engine? Ian Loy Caterpillar Account Manager, ATA Environment KRA, Truck Industry Council Board Alternative Fuels Workshop

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Can I try alternative fuels? YES - but

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Warranty  No fuel is warranted by the vehicle / engine manufacturer –even diesel  Talk is cheap – but it can save you lots –Support varies depending on supplier so there is NO general rule

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Warranty - what happens?  Warranty covers –Workmanship & Material defects  Items not supplied by the manufacturer are not covered by manufacturer’s warranty –Fuel, oil, coolant etc bought elsewhere

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Warranty - Manufacturer  Exclusions –Failures resulting from any use or installation which the manufacturer judges improper.  If so judged there is no warranty no matter what the cause

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Warranty - Manufacturer  Talk to YOUR manufacturer  Determine THEIR position  Understand YOUR position

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Warranty – alternate fuel system and fuel  TALK to your potential suppliers  Determine their level of support  Determine if there are gaps in support

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Questions – for potential suppliers  Are you recognised by the base engine manufacturer?  Do you meet all base engine manufacturer design criteria, if so how do you have access to this proprietary information?  Does this system affect other functions of the engine?  Does it maintain ADR compliance?

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Questions – for potential suppliers  What is your warranty?  What does your warranty cover and for how long?  Who will carry out any warranty work?

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Natural Gas  TIC recommends this as a heavy duty transport fuel.

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. LPG – Auto Gas  Based on current technologies available, TIC does not recommend this fuel at this point in time for heavy duty transportation.

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Propane – HD5  TIC recommends HD5 or HD10 as a heavy duty transport fuel

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Bio-Diesel  TIC recommends B5 as a heavy duty transport fuel. The biodiesel component of B5 must meet the biodiesel specification under the act

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Bio-Diesel – Other comments  Bio-Diesel is food –Places tension on pricing  Bio-Diesel LOVES water –Maintenance needs are higher  Made to a standard? –Which standard? –How consistent?  5% is “safe” for all engines –Individual suppliers may allow 30 or even 100%

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement.

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Aqua-Diesel  TIC does not recommend this product.  TIC recommends that end users who wish to use this product consult their supplier for product support and coverage.  TIC believes that the classification under section 13 of the act, where sale is to informed commercial customers and not for retail sale, is the most appropriate way of dealing with this fuel.

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Diesohol  Primarily due to the hazardous nature of diesohol, TIC does not recommend this as a heavy duty transport fuel.  TIC to push for only use with informed commercial customers, and not for forecourt sale, and handled under section 13 of the act.

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. Wintermix  TIC to push for a more diesel like fuel.  Issues are –Lubricity – needed for precision fuel systems –Density – power per litre –Viscosity – ease of pumping –Sulphur – damages aftertreatment systems

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. General Comments  ONLY diesel is diesel  ALL require change management  Can be successful – but it takes Work and Commitment of the suppliers and users

October 12, 2014 CATERPILLAR: CONFIDENTIAL GREEN This information is confidential and not for use or disclosure outside Caterpillar except under written agreement. A word of advice TALK

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