New IXPs in a Post IPv4 World ______________________________ Andy Davidson Hurricane Electric / LONAP RIPE62, Amsterdam, 4 th May 2011.

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New IXPs in a Post IPv4 World ______________________________ Andy Davidson Hurricane Electric / LONAP RIPE62, Amsterdam, 4 th May 2011

IPv4 …. YAWN!

Process Get some numbers! – IPv6 PI For Exchange Points – IPv4 PI IPv4 PI will go away very soon indeed!

Do v4 prefix exchange over v6 transport? You still need an IPv4 next-hop Process separation is desirable Assumption that next-hop can deliver 4 *and* 6 is possibly flawed Troubleshooting?

RFC 1918 IPv4 URPF Duplication Reverse DNS ICMP failure Troubleshooting ?

Just do v6 peering at new exchanges? Makes new exchange unattractive or unviable Exchange is a neutral catalyst for good of internet including v6 deployment

Just don’t make any new exchanges Unappealing The bits of the world without exchanges will benefit enormously from an exchange

Save some IPv4 for IXPs? Hold an additional /16 from the last /8 for IXPs We define IXPs in ripe document already … Discuss ? To be taken to APWG on Thursday if support.

Suggestions from EIX Significant support Don’t wait for the final /8 ? Not just for new IXPs, but growing existing ones ? Minimum assignment size ?