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The Euthyphro Argument (in technicolor)

The entire passage Then, my dear Euthyphro, piety and what is pleasing to the gods are different things. If the gods had loved piety because it is pious, they would also have loved what is pleasing to them because it is pleasing to them; but if what is pleasing to them had been pleasing to them because they loved it, then piety, too, would have been piety because they loved it. But now you see they are opposite things, and wholly different from each other. For the one is of a sort to be loved because it is loved, while the other is loved because it is of the sort to be loved. My question, Euthyphro, was, What is piety? But it turns out that you have not explained to me the essential character of piety; you have been content to mention an effect which belongs to it—namely, that all gods love it. You have not yet told me what its essential character is. (see page 11) Note: Euthyphro earlier (page 10) states that all the gods love piety because it is pious.

Finding the conclusion piety and what is pleasing to the gods are different things Then, my dear Euthyphro, piety and what is pleasing to the gods are different things. If the gods had loved piety because it is pious, they would also have loved what is pleasing to them because it is pleasing to them; but if what is pleasing to them had been pleasing to them because they loved it, then piety, too, would have been piety because they loved it. But now you see they are opposite things, and wholly different from each other. For the one is of a sort to be loved because it is loved, while the other is loved because it is of the sort to be loved. My question, Euthyphro, was, What is piety? But it turns out that you have not explained to me the essential character of piety; you have been content to mention an effect which belongs to it—namely, that all gods love it. You have not yet told me what its essential character is.

The first argument If the gods had loved piety because it is pious, they would also have loved what is pleasing to them because it is pleasing to them the one is of a sort to be loved because it is loved Then, my dear Euthyphro, piety and what is pleasing to the gods are different things. If the gods had loved piety because it is pious, they would also have loved what is pleasing to them because it is pleasing to them; but if what is pleasing to them had been pleasing to them because they loved it, then piety, too, would have been piety because they loved it. But now you see they are opposite things, and wholly different from each other. For the one is of a sort to be loved because it is loved, while the other is loved because it is of the sort to be loved. My question, Euthyphro, was, What is piety? But it turns out that you have not explained to me the essential character of piety; you have been content to mention an effect which belongs to it—namely, that all gods love it. You have not yet told me what its essential character is.

The first argument simplified Piety = what is pleasing to all the gods The gods love piety because it is pious. The gods love what is pleasing to them because it is pleasing to them.

Look at what happens Piety = what is pleasing to all the gods The gods love piety because it is pious. The gods love what is pleasing to them because it is pleasing to them.

Again, with the conclusion: Piety = what is pleasing to all the gods The gods love piety because it is pious. The gods love what is pleasing to them because it is pleasing to them. But... this means piety is loved because it is loved

The second argument if what is pleasing to them had been pleasing to them because they loved it, then piety, too, would have been piety because they loved it. the other is loved because it is of the sort to be loved. Then, my dear Euthyphro, piety and what is pleasing to the gods are different things. If the gods had loved piety because it is pious, they would also have loved what is pleasing to them because it is pleasing to them; but if what is pleasing to them had been pleasing to them because they loved it, then piety, too, would have been piety because they loved it. But now you see they are opposite things, and wholly different from each other. For the one is of a sort to be loved because it is loved, while the other is loved because it is of the sort to be loved. My question, Euthyphro, was, What is piety? But it turns out that you have not explained to me the essential character of piety; you have been content to mention an effect which belongs to it—namely, that all gods love it. You have not yet told me what its essential character is.

The second argument simplified Piety = what is pleasing to all the gods What is pleasing to the gods is pleasing to them because they love it. The pious is pious because it is pleasing to the gods (i.e., the gods love it).

Look at what happens Piety = what is pleasing to all the gods What is pleasing to the gods is pleasing to them because they love it. The pious is pious because it is pleasing to the gods (i.e., the gods love it).

Again, with the conclusion Piety = what is pleasing to all the gods What is pleasing to the gods is pleasing to them because they love it. The pious is pious because it is pleasing to the gods (i.e., the gods love it). But... this does not say what piety is; it does not define piety.

And, the final conclusion... you have not explained to me the essential character of piety; you have been content to mention an effect which belongs to it—namely, that all gods love it Then, my dear Euthyphro, piety and what is pleasing to the gods are different things. If the gods had loved piety because it is pious, they would also have loved what is pleasing to them because it is pleasing to them; but if what is pleasing to them had been pleasing to them because they loved it, then piety, too, would have been piety because they loved it. But now you see they are opposite things, and wholly different from each other. For the one is of a sort to be loved because it is loved, while the other is loved because it is of the sort to be loved. My question, Euthyphro, was, What is piety? But it turns out that you have not explained to me the essential character of piety; you have been content to mention an effect which belongs to it—namely, that all gods love it. You have not yet told me what its essential character is.