R Cas: A Parallactic Conundrum Paul Hemenway University of Denver Physics and Astronomy Department.

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R Cas: A Parallactic Conundrum Paul Hemenway University of Denver Physics and Astronomy Department

Acknowledgements Toshiya Ueto and Bob Stencil (for pointing out the astrometric-astrophysical discrepancy) Imants Platais (for pointing me to the new HIPPARCOS reduction) Floor van Leeuwen for a last minute AND OF COURSE: Bill, for encouraging me in astrometry in the first place, and for being the subject of this symposium.

Some personal notes on “BillvA” 1966/7 – Peter Pesch and Case Institute of Technology – University of Virginia 1977 – 1996 –Texas & HST -Bill and how to use 5 observations with HST to get a parallax accurate to a milliarcsecond in two and a half years.

How to separate a parallax and proper motion in 2.5 years When our HST Astrometry Science Team first met in 1978, Bill van Altena laid out the “optimum minimum” observing schedule to get a good separation between parallax and proper motion: you need observations at at least five epochs well spaced over 2.5 years [and I assume close to the extreme points of the parallactic ellipse – PDH].

R Cas, Basic Characteristics, mostly from SIMBAD last night  : 23 H 58 M 24 S.8725,  : +51 o 23’ 19’’.703 (HIP 1)   : ±.095,   : ±.088 (mas/yr) (HIP 1) Radial Velocity: 21.4 ±0.9 km/sec HIP mag: , B-V=1.5 Sp Type: M7IIIe Diameter (Optical Interferometry) 40mas (Vlemmings, et al., 2003). Radio: OH Maser.

R Cas Light Curve from AAVSO

R Cas, 70  m, MIPS*, Spitzer (Thanks to Toshiya Ueto, DU) *Multiband Imaging Photometer for Spitzer

The Problem with R Cas SourceParallax (mas) RMS Parallactic error (mas)     Type HIPPARCOS (1997) ± ±0.88 Astrometric Satellite Vlemmings, et al ± ± 1.75 Phase Referencing VLBI

Paper 1: “VLBI astrometry of circumstellar OH masers; proper motions and parallaxes of four AGB stars” W.H.T. Vlemmings, H.J. van Langevelde, P.J. Diamond, H.J. Habing, and R.T. Schilizzi Astron.Astrophys. 407 (2003)

The VLBA Observations Vlemmings, et al. give a detailed description of the VLBA observations, but the astrometric reduction description leaves something to be desired. Vlemmings, et al.: “The data was [sic!] then processed in AIPS without any special astrometric software. We rely on the VLBA correlator model and work with the residual phases directly. To be able to apply the phase, delay and phase rate solutions obtained on the continuum reference sources, a special task was written to connect the calibration of the wide band data to the spectral line data.”

VLBI Data Points (from Paper 1)

Paul’s data read from the plot from Paper 1  mas)  mas) 

Dates of VLBI Observation (from Paper 1) JD years from …

Paul’s Simple model Parallax Factors: F  = (1/15)*sec(  )*( X earth *sin(  ) - Y earth *cos(  ) ),{timesec} F  = ( X earth *sin(  ) - Y earth *cos(  ) ), {arcsec or mas} F  = X earth *cos(a)*sin(  ) - Y earth * sin(a)*sin(  ) - Z earth * cos(  ) Then the coordinates are:  =  0 +   *t +  *F  {arcsec/milliarcsec}  =  0 +   *t +  *F  (I got the (X,Y,Z) earth from the USNO Multiyear Interactive Computer Almanac)

The Parallax Factors RA parallax Factors (time units): Dec parallax Factors:

The conditions A_arc = A_arc = 1 t 1 F  t 2 F  t 3 F  t 4 F  t 5 F  t 6 F  F  1 1 t 1 0 0F  2 1 t F  3 1 t 3 0 0F  4 1 t 4 0 0F  5 1 t 5 0 0F  6 1 t 6 X T = (  0     0   )

Paul’s simple (linear) solution The equations of condition: Y = A*X The Simple solution X = (A T A) -1 A T *Y

Paul’s simple (linear) solution X T = (  0     0   ) X T = ( )  x = ( ± 5.01 ±3.91 ±4.17 ±5.09 ±4.01 )

SIMBAD Data Basic data : V* R Cas -- Variable Star of Mira Cet type with radius arcmin Other object types: Mi* (), * (AG,BD,CSI,GC,GCRV,HD,HIC,HIP,HR,PPM,SAO,SKY#,UBV,YZ,[LFO93]), IR (DIRBE,IRAS,IRC,2MASS,RAFGL), ** (ADS,CCDM,IDS), V* (V*,AAVSO), Mas ([PCC93],[WCP90]) ICRS coord. (ep=2000 eq=2000) : ( ~Unknown ) [ ] A 1997A&A...323L..49P FK5 coord. (ep=2000 eq=2000) : ( ~Unknown ) [ ] A 1997A&A...323L..49P FK4 coord. (ep=1950 eq=1950) : ( ~Unknown ) [ ] A 1997A&A...323L..49P Gal coord. (ep=2000 eq=2000) : ( ~Unknown ) [ ] A 1997A&A...323L..49P Proper motions mas/yr [error ellipse]: A [ ] 1997A&A...323L..49P Radial velocity / Redshift / cz : km/s 21.4 [0.9] / z [ ] / cz [0.90] A 1953GCRV..C W Parallaxes mas: 9.37 [1.10] A 1997A&A...323L..49P Spectral type: M7IIIe (D) ~ Fluxes (4) : V 4.8 [~] C ~ J [0.220] C 2003yCat C H [0.170] C 2003yCat C K [9.996] C 2003yCat C

More SIMBAD Data Identifiers (27) : V* R Cas GC IRAS UBV ADS A GCRV IRC YZ AG HD MASS J [LFO93] BD HIC PPM [PCC93] 505 CCDM J A HIP RAFGL 3188 [WCP90] CSI HR 9066 SAO AAVSO DIRBE D P IDS A SKY# 45221

Revised HIPPARCOS Data (from Imants’ copy of the Revised HIPPARCOS Catalog

R Cas Parallaxes SourceParallax (mas) RMS Parallactic error (mas)     Type HIPPARCOS (1997) 9.37± ± ±0.88 Astrometric Satellite Vlemmings, et al. 5.67± ± ± 1.75 (VLBI) Paul’s fit to Paper ± ± ±4.01 HIPPARCOS (revised) 5.50± ± ± 1.13 Astrometric Satellite

BUT WAIT: THERE’s MORE!!!! From Floor van Leeuwen, 11 September 2008 (Private Communication) “Forgot to reply on R Cas. I clearly have to close and replace the Vizier version of the catalogue as something has gone wrong there. The value I have here and which should instead be on Vizier is ” (emphasis – PDH). (Floor did replace the Vizier HIPPARCOS entries within the day, according to a different to Michael Ratner at CfA about IM Peg…but that’s ANOTHER story!)

R Cas Parallaxes SourceParallax (mas) RMS Parallactic error (mas)     Type HIPPARCOS (1997) 9.37± ± ±0.88 Astrometric Satellite Vlemmings, et al. 5.67± ± ± 1.75 (VLBI) Paul’s fit to Paper ± ± ±4.01 HIPPARCOS (revised) 5.50± ± ± 1.13 Astrometric Satellite HIPPARCOS (re-revised Yet again) 7.95±1.02From Visier last night, (no  ’s) Astrometric Satellite

Sooooooo: Welllll, we don’t have the answer yet

Bill van Altena’s Conclusions: 1.Everybody thinks Astrometry is simple but hardly anybody gets it right. 2. Nobody is being trained to do Astrometry anymore.

Acknowledgements Toshiya Ueto and Bob Stencil (for pointing out the astrometric-astrophysical discrepancy) Imants Platais (for pointing me to the new HIPPARCOS reduction) Floor van Leeuwen for a last minute AND OF COURSE: Bill, for encouraging me in astrometry in the first place, and for being the subject of this symposium.