1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 1 Blue Group  The Motion: A Comprehensive National DNA Database Should Be Set Up  Our Position: WE ARE AGAINST IT

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 2 The Blue Team  Leader: Serena Cameirano  Speaker 1: Mazez Al-Heseny  Helpers: Brian Cullen  Speaker 2: John Curtis  Helpers: Eoghan Cunneen  Speaker 3: Andrew Collins  Helpers: Ekaterina Aksenova Byrne Ivan  Rebuttal: Sean Curry  Helpers: Fortune Sarah Diarmuid Delaney

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 3 Our Argument  Speaker 1 : Mazez Al-Heseny  Ethics  Privacy  Genetic discrimination.  Speaker 2 : John Curtis  Could it be exploited, and how?  Speaker 3 : Andrew Collins  Will it even help us?

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 4 Speaker 1  Mazez Al-Heseny  Ethics

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 5 Ethics  DNA Database and privacy  Genetic discrimination

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 6 Privacy?  Who should be tested?  Who will collect the data?  Who will have access to it?  What use will they make of it?

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 7 What Information?  DNA testing may reveal the presence of a socially stigmatizing genetic disorder or unveil behavioural traits, such as the rape or murder gene (i.e. behavioural genetics).  Testing may disclose information about significant future episodes and possibly shameful events, such as susceptibility to disease.  Could this information be passed on to Employers or Insurance companies.

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 8 Scientists make mistakes! “And there are cases in the United Kingdom where innocent people were convicted after false matches in the databank” Ricardo Federico (Toranto Criminal Lawyer)

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 9 Speaker 2  John Curtis  Could such a system ever be exploited, how?

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 10 Could it be exploited, and how?  For commercial objectives? u Insurance? – Uses in ‘loading’ those with disease prone genes? – Employers looking for ‘long-term’ workers? I.e. Gattica  Research? u Iceland first country in the world to sell their DNA [1] "In our company," said Kari Stefansson of DeCode, "we have the genealogy of the entire people for 1,000 years back in time and a computerized record of who is related to whom.” – Comprehensive DNA database may prove to be a ‘cash cow’… – Can we trust the government not to be tempted by this new source of income? [1]

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 11 What uses could it have?  National Security? / Government Objectives u Uses other than those intended for it? – After Sept. 11th many new laws pushed through hastily – In times of emergency what could the DNA database be put to use for?  Security Issues?  Could such a system ever be hacked? u The harm that could be done if it were – DNA is so persuasive

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 12 Can we ever be sure  Ask ourselves?  Can we really be sure that a DNA database will only be used for crime fighting?  Can we be assured of privacy?  Can we be sure that governments will not be tempted by this potential source of income?  The answer is NO

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 13 Speaker 3  Andrew Collins  Do we need it and would it help us?

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 14 British DNA database:  Example from Republic Book I:  Socrates: Then under what circumstances would a criminal be caught by a DNA database?  Polemarchus: If they were previously caught and had their DNA put on the database.  Socrates: So then people who are caught by it are already criminals.  Polemarchus: Yes  Socrates: Then people who are caught by the DNA database weren't deterred from commiting another crime?  Polemarchus: Clearly.  Socrates: Is that to say, Polemarchus, that if 1,000 people were caught every week with the DNA database, 1,000 people are let out of custody every week unreformed?  Polemarchus: That is the inference.  Socrates: Then a DNA database isn't good for much.  Polemarchus: Ah touché

1BA6 Blue Group Class Presentation - Topic 15 Do we need it?  A DNA database might catch criminals, but will it rehabilitate them?  Will it help curb the crime increase?  Is it only a temporary solution to a long term problem?