S 1 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04. s 2 The Introduction of Bachelor- Master Programme in Germany Industry’s Perspective Dr. Kruno Hernaut TechnoTN-2004 Brussels,

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s 1 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04

s 2 The Introduction of Bachelor- Master Programme in Germany Industry’s Perspective Dr. Kruno Hernaut TechnoTN-2004 Brussels, 13 th Feb 2004

s 3 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Akademiingeniør Bachelor of Arts Bachelor of Engineering Bachelor of Science Civilingeniør Civilingenjör Diplom-Ingenieur Diplom-Ingenieur ETH Diplom-Ingenieur (FH) Diplomi-Insinöör Diplomirani Inženir Doktor-Ingenieur Dottore in Ingegneria Example: Variety of academic engineering titles in Europe Engenheiro Europa-Ingenieur Ingenieur (grad.) Ingeniør Inginer Insinööri Ingeniero Químico Ingeniero Superior Ingeniero Técnico Ingénieur civil Ingénieur diplomé Ingénieur industriel Ingénieur technicien Inženyr Inžinier Inżynier Magister Inżynier Master of Arts Master of Engineering Master of Science Okleveles mérnök Okleveles üzemmérnök Sivilingeniør Teknikfræðingur Teknikumingeniør Verkfræðingur

s 4 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 What are the differences ?  different types of universities  different degree levels  different degree profiles  different titles  different lengths of study Variety of educational systems Criteria relevant for the labour market:  Competence Level  Competence Profile No clear correlation with the Title ! Criteria relevant for the labour market:  Competence Level  Competence Profile No clear correlation with the Title !

s 5 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 FCD (Bachelor) SCD (Master) TCD (Doctorate) Consecutive Undergraduate Study Years Graduate Study Years Postgraduate Study Years Long Doctorate Years Graduate school Typical options for Higher Education Systems First Cycle Third Cycle Second Cycle UK, IR, Global Standard Long Study Programme ~ 5 Years Doctorate ~ 3 Years Short Study Programme Years Continental Europe ShortIntegrated Undergraduate Study Years Graduate Study Years Postgraduate Study Years European Higher Education System (“Bologna”) European Higher Education System (“Bologna”)

s 6 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Research University Traditional Continental Europe vs Global Standard SCD level FCD level Compatible Mobility Channels Master Graduate Study Global Standard Bachelor Undergraduate Study Short Degree "Short" engineering program (4 years) Long Degree "Long" engineering program (5 years) Applied University

s 7 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 SCD level FCD level Advanced level Compatibility problems Long Degree "Long" engineering program Short Degree "Short" engineering program Graduate Study Undergraduate Study Global Standard ? No added value No defined entry Forget it ! Basics ? Back to the Basics ! Basic level Deficit

s 8 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 New EHES ProgramsTraditional Programs Second Cycle Degree SCD First Cycle Degree FCD University “ Dipl.-Ing. ” » Long « 5 years University of Applied Sciences “ Dipl.-Ing. ” » Short « 4 years All HEI “ Bachelor “ » 1 st Cycle « years All HEI “ Master “ » 2 nd Cycle « years Implementation of Bologna Declaration in Germany German Industry welcomes the EHES

s 9 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 New HE Legislation in Germany (since 1998) says:  Bachelor's and Master's degree must qualify for the profession (relevance for the labor market)  Program duration Bachelor:3 - 4 Years Master:1 - 2 Years Bachelor/Master consecutive:max 5 Years  Bachelor and Master programs must be evaluated through an Accreditation System

s 10 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Equivalency of traditional and EHES degrees : Equivalencies Diplom Univ  Master Diplom (FH)  Bachelor (hons) The traditional Diplom degree at University of Applied Sciences is considered as equivalent to the four years Bachelor honours degree The traditional Diplom and Magister degrees at University are considered as equivalent to the new Master degree

s 11 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Theoretical and practical portions of required competence in industry Research & Development Product Development, Design Production, Installation, Service Engineering, Sales, Marketing Theoretical / Abstract Competence Practical / Concrete Competence

s 12 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Industry's need is different qualification profiles R & D Design Engineering, Marketing Production Installation, Service Ingenieur Practical / Concrete Competence Theoretical / Abstract Competence Basic Research University (Theory based) Univ. of Appl. Sci. (Application oriented)

s 13 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Qualification profiles in Bologna programs SCD level R & D Design Engineering, Marketing Production Installation, Service Basic Research Theoretical / Abstract Competence Practical / Concrete Competence FCD level Employability (Dipl.-Ing. Standard)

s 14 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Variety of new Programs at German Universities Diplom-Ingenieur Master of Science Master of Engineering Universities Bachelor level FCD Master level SCD Profile more theory oriented more application oriented Bachelor of Science Bachelor of Engineering Level Master of Science Master of Engineering

s 15 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Industry's recommendation for content in an Engineering Program Ingenieur Depth of Qualification Width of Qualification Technology Base Application Base & Problem Solving Methodology Scientific Base ~30 % ~25 % Personal Skills ~15 % Thesis (Project) Industry Placement

s 16 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 POWER = WORK / TIME Many universities focus on delivering deep knowledge. But what is the value of knowledge ? TIME = MONEY KNOWLEDGE = POWERSocial Science Physics Business POWER = WORK / TIME MONEY = WORK / KNOWLEDGE POWER = WORK / MONEYKNOWLEDGE = WORK / MONEY Conclusion The more you know the less you earn regardless of work !

s 17 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Industry's recommendation for content in an Engineering Program Ingenieur Depth of Qualification Width of Qualification Technology Base Application Base & Problem Solving Methodology Scientific Base ~30 % ~25 % Personal Skills ~15 % Thesis (Project) Industry Placement Basics Engineering

s 18 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Global StandardResearch University SCD level FCD level Master Engineering Bachelor Engineering Basics Basic level Advanced level Transition of "Long Education" to two-cycle System Basics Long Degree Engineering Master Engineering Bachelor Engineering Basics Integrative approach Lack of compatibility Problems Not well balanced Not well balanced

s 19 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Transition of "Long Education" to two-cycle System Global StandardResearch University SCD level FCD level Engineering Basics Long Degree Engineering Basics Industry‘s recommendation: New Bachelor Program Engineering Basics Advanced level Basic level Compatible solution Balanced Programs Balanced Programs Advanced Basics Basic Basics Advanced Eng Basic Eng

s 20 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Americas RoEurope Germany Asia / Pacific Recruiting of Graduates with University Degree (2002)

s 21 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 FCD ~ 80 %SCD ~ 20 % RoEurope Recruiting of Graduates with First and Second Cycle Degree SCD 25 % FCD 75 % SCD 15 % FCD 85 % SCD 15 % FCD 85 % SCD 60 % FCD 40 % Americas Asia Germany

s 22 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Berufsausübung mit Master-Abschluß Voraussichtliches Qualifizierungsverhalten eines Ingenieurjahrganges im eingeschwungenen Bachelor-Master-Ausbildungssystem Master- Studium (  20 %) Nach  10 Jahren (  40 %) Berufsausübung mit Bachelor-Abschluß (  80 %) Unmittelbar nach dem Bachelor-Abschluß (  60 %) Berufsbegleitendes Master-Studium (~ 20 %) Bachelor- Studium (100 %) Absolventen- Jahrgang

s 23 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 Conclusions  Industry welcomes the Bologna process  Industry recommends rapid implementation  FCD programs must lead to employability  Quality improvement and international recognition through accreditation

s 24 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04 End Ladies and Gentlemen. Thank you for your attention questions and discussion are appreciated Dr. Kruno Hernaut

s 25 Dr. K. Hernaut02 / 04