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CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Plans for NICE Frédéric Hemmer

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 2 Outline q Servers evolution q Windows desktop evolution

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 3 Server: motivations q Stability q Flexibility q Meet individual divisions/experiments expectations and needs q Serviceability & Scalability q Meeting conflicting requirements (e.g. interventions) q Accommodate for different needs (e.g. disk space, 3 rd party products) q Reduce diversity q Simplicity (easier to understand problems) q Less effort

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 4 Servers q Today q Home, Apps, Print servers (NetWare 4.11) q PDC, BDC, Profile, etc. servers (NT 4.0) q Local experiment’s servers (NT 4.0) q Local divisional servers (NetWare 4.11, NT 4.0) q All NetWare servers going to SP6, TSKZERFX.NLM q All NT servers going to SP 4/5

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 5 Servers Issues q Stability q Old hardware q Mixed 256/512 MB, but consistent q Performance problems ? q Complains about slow access (B 112, 197, 73)  Need more analysis q Global organization is division centric q Historical q Does not allow easily to be experiment centric q Changes affect too many people at the same time q Disk space policy q Home directories q “Project” space (divisional servers) q Lack of widespread knowledge of NetWare

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 6 Recent server instabilities q NetWare expects the task id field in the NCB to be non zero q Some applications does not respect this (not identified, maybe nwrdr)  TSKZERFX.NLM installed mid-may  Servers stable since patch introduction  Solution not identified correctly initially  Difficult to develop mixed vendors solutions  Server failures affected too many people simultaneously

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 7 Groups q A “Group” here is a collection of people sharing : q the same business cycles (e.g. LHCB experiment, administration) q the same files (e.g. Survey photos) q the same third party server tools (e.g. GDPM for SL/ST) q Special needs (e.g. ISOLDE controls)

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 8 Servers restructuration (1) q Go to a “group” structure q Map physical to logical structure q For example SRV_EST\Users\Fred SRV_EST\Survey\Data SRV_EST\Survey\Archive\Photos SRV_EST\P32\… SRV_LHCB\Users\James SRV_LHCB\Controls\… SRV_LHCB\P32\…  Isolation from global server failures  Installed software can be under “group” control  Local structure under “group” control  Allows for easier local administration delegation  But need for a “move user” facility  Decentralization possible (e.g. PS, Isolde) Division centric Experiment centric } }

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 9 Server restructuration (2) q hardware rejuvenation (group) q ISP style of rack-mounted servers q External disk shelves  Ease of operation  Scalability q RAID 5  Resilience  Ease of operation

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 10 Server OS - Options Options q Do nothing q NW > Client32 q NW > NW 5.0 q NW > NT 4.0 q NW > Windows 2000 Server Problems No IP, 8.3, accents UI, depl., Home, NT, IP OK? Expertise, migration NT client, quotas, BU Too early Effort Zero High Medium ? Huge

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 11 Server OS Preferences

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 12 NT server : impact q Need to deploy NT client on each W95 q Affect roughly 1/3 of the W95 installed base q Users will have to type their password twice the first time q Uses 360 KB of disk space q Need to discuss structure and medium term needs (e.g. disk) with each division q Need to migrate users

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 13 NT client installed base Division AS DSU EP EST FI IT LHC PE PS SL SPL ST TH TIS Total Not Installed Installed

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 14 Windows 2000 Server strategy q Involve users from day 1 q Develop desktop independently from server q Prototype Windows 2000 server gradually as of now q Take into account a HEP-wide structure (HepNT) q Independent servers for different functions  Allows for alternatives (e.g. Kerberos)  Allows for component based introduction q Basis for a managed local apps support (roaming user) q Establish Windows 2000 working group q Detailed plan available this summer

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 15 Potential benefits q “Group” independence q Structure mapped to the organization q Failures isolated q Better serviceability/scalability q Resources more easily mapped to individual requests q One Server OS – leading vendor q Reduce diversity q Management tools easier to develop q 3 rd party tools less subject to problems q Windows 2000 Server technologies q Clear statement of direction q Individual needs early taken into account

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 16 Windows desktop: motivations q Evolving the platform in order to q Meet divisions and experiments expectations and needs (hardware, software, configurations, etc...) q Follow the market q While q Minimizing the changes q Reducing diversity q Being flexible with different needs q Dealing with decreasing effort available

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 17 Windows desktop today q Windows 95 q Windows NT q Most supported applications are remote q Local NICE Mirror for unconnected Portables

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 18 Windows desktop short term needs q Windows 95 q At least Windows 95 Year 2000 software update needed (summer/autumn) q Windows NT q SP4 (Y2K) is being applied … q SP5 (Y2K) needs to be applied (summer/autumn)

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 19 Windows 95 problems Y2K (examples) q Date Tab in Find Files (e.g. 03/20/2003  03/20/C3) q Dates in File Manager q Date in cmd. int. not valid for 00->79 q Date/Time picker q Date in Control panel q Xcopy /d q msvrct40.dll between April 1- >8, 2001 Others q q Large disk (also BIOS issue) q q Multicast (NDIS.VXD) q q USB (Scanners, Cameras, etc…) q q Some apps would not install (e.g. AutoCad …)

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 20 Possible options for Windows 95 Options q Do nothing q Windows 95 SP1 q Windows 95 OSR2 q Windows 98 q Windows NT q Windows 2000 Professional Problems USB, disk, apps All OK ? USB ? Y2K, W98 SE USB, EDH etc. EDH etc. Effort needed None Medium¹ High Medium High ¹ ¹ Partly applied, some registry settings incorrect

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 21 Windows desktop Preferences Mainly dictated by manpower available q Skip Windows 98 q Freeze Windows 95 after Y2K SP + few fixes q Propose move to NT for large disk q Provide missing apps on NT (Diane, etc…) q Prototype Windows 2000 (desktop) - Target MS release months (  EOY) NT Issues q Some applications missing on NT (EDH, BHT, HRT ?, but anyway won’t pass Dec. 1999) q USB q Change user perception of NT “slowness”

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 22 Problems with applications under NICE/NT ¹  1-Applications  MS Publisher: doesn’t start  00-Other Office versions  3- Access (16 bit): doesn’t start  More Appl.  0-Accessories  Clipboard Viewer (16 bit)  Charmap (16 bit)  Desk Tools: why they are there ?  Obsolete Applications: why keep them ?  1-System Configuration  01-PC Admin.  All … Create NICE disks …. Only W95: why keep them ?  11-Recover unaccessable files (16 bit): why keep it ?  2-Communications  CERN dial -up networking: Error … can’t change directory  4a-NCD Terminal 3 (16 bit): why keep it ?  5-EDH, BHT  BHT; doesn’t start  EDH (W3.1): why keep it ?  EDH (W95): why keep it ?  Foundation (16 bit): why keep it ?  6-Shareware  9b-Power Point Viewer: doesn’t work  Any … NICE documentations: Error: Z:\npdocs\….. not found ¹ Courtesy from H. Wendler/EP - June 1998

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 23 Desktop local applications q Major effort q Issue is how to manage the installed apps q Mgmt Programs would need to be redeveloped q Home directories access may look slow q This seems to be really solved with Windows 2000 Server technologies (IntelliMirror, SMS 2.0)  Develop local apps with Windows 2000 Server  Allow for monitored local installs initiated by the user  Home directories are cached in W2K

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 24 Windows desktop : impact q Some hardware may not run Windows 2000 Professional q 16 bit/DOS applications q Some ISA boards not supported q Change of User interface (active desktop)

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 25 Windows 2000 Ready products* q NT 4.0 SP3 q 64 MB memory q ACPI for laptops q 300 MHz; 233 MHz for laptops * Note: The requirements listed above are preferred. They exceed the minimum requirements to run Windows 2000 q We have shown Windows 2000 on Olivetti 133 MHz, 32 MB RAM with Office 2000

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 26 Ethernet Cards (major)

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 27 Potential benefits q Clear evolution path (W95/WNT -> W2K) q Reduced support matrix q For application providers q For service providers q Plug & Play, USB, Large disks q Real OS q Can be done early q But not forcing migration immediately q Allows for legacy application support q Training (if needed) can be staged over time

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Desktop Forum - June 30, 1999 Frédéric Hemmer CERN-IT/DIS 28 Summary q Go to IP only ASAP q NT client on W95 for non {EP,IT,PS}|{New PC’s} q NetWare -> NT servers q Rejuvenate and restructure Home/Div/Apps servers q Skip Window 98, focus on Windows 2000 q Offer Windows 2000 Professional ASAP q Offer NT alternative for large disks q With local apps managed by IntelliMirror/SMS later q Prototype a Windows 2000 service architecture q Taking account of a HEP wide structure q Allowing for shared sub-services (e.g. Kerberos) q Allowing for early participation of divisions/experiments  Unified architecture with one PC Windows desktop platform in the medium term