NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester Network Measurements Working Group Chairs:Richard Hughes-Jones Brian Tierney NM-WG GGF10 Berlin

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NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester Agenda for NM-GW Meeting 10 Mar 15:30 uAgenda bashing Note Takers uHierarchy document : Richard uMilestones: Richard 10/0 uOverview of GHPN-RG work on Network Services: Franco 15/25 uProposed new Network Measurements Research Group (BoF in Hawaii?): Brian 10/35 uOverview of WS-RF and how it effects NMWG work: Ben Clifford 10/45 uSummary / current status of Request schema: Mark/Paul 15/60 uSummary status on Response schema : Dan/[Martin] 15/75 upiPEs experience with new schema: Eric/[Warren] 10/85 uSLAC experience with new schema: Eric/[Paola] 10/95

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester Agenda for Schema Discussion Meeting 11 Mar 04 u4 Sessions: Room :30-10:00; 10:30-12:00; 14:00-15:30; 16:00-17:30 uAgenda bashing uExplain difference between document/literal SOAP vs RPC SOAP and why we care - Dan 15/0 uGeneral overview of why we are here: sample use case scenarios : Mark 15/30 uWalkthrough of Request schema: Mark/Paul 60/90 uOverview on Response schema / requirements doc : Dan/[Martin] 60/150 uAnalyze the two schemas in combination for incompatibilities and resolve 120 Include Examples: take a few common measurements, e.g. ping, iperf, host cpu/mem, some SNMP counters describe some sample inputs/outputs for each. uAnd if there is still time: Begin work on the "development guide". ( 30 min?) Include a Test suite: pick some combinations of inputs/expected-outputs that would indicate an "interoperable" implementation. Try to hit some of the "edge" cases with time ranges, parameter values, etc.

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester Status of the Hierarchy Document u“A Hierarchy of Network Performance Characteristics for Grid Applications and Services” uDocument defines terms & relations: Network characteristics Measurement methodologies Observation uDiscusses Nodes & Paths uFor each Characteristic Defines the meaning Attributes that SHOULD be included Issues to consider when making an observation uStatus: Originally submitted to GFSG as Community Practice Document draft-ggf-nmwg-hierarchy-01.pdf Jul 2003 Revised to Proposed Recommendation draft-ggf-nmwg-hierarchy-02.pdf 7 Jan 04 Now in 60 day Public comment from 28 Jan 04 – 18 days to go. See

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester NM-WG Milestones – as of GGF9 uJun 2003Detailed discussion of Schemas document uJun 2003 GGF 8 Seattle uJul 2003 Submit hierarchy document to GFSG uOct 2003Draft of Schema document uOct 2003Set of Use Case queries uOct 2003Draft XML uOct 2003f2f discussion on XML and Schema uOct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago uDec 3003Agreed version of Schema document (data model) uJan 2003Create XML Schema Input and Output uXxx 2003?? OGSI Spec. ?? uXxx 2004Initial implementations and Proof of Concept Demos uFeb 2004 GGF 10 Berlin uJan 2003Refine XML Schema Input and Output uXxx 2004Implementations and Proof of Concept Demos uJun 2004 GGF 11 Hawaii

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester NM-WG Milestones uJuly 2002 GGF 5 Edinburgh uJul 2002Begin work on tools classification uOct 2002 GGF 6 Chicago uOct 2002Near-final draft of characteristics hierarchy document to GFSG uMar 2003 GGF 7 Tokyo uMar 2003Finish work on tools classification web page uMar 2003Begin work on schema document uJun 2003 GGF 8 Seattle uApr 2003 Submit hierarchy document to GFSG uJul 2003 Submit hierarchy document to GFSG uOct 2003Draft of Schema document uNov 2003Draft of Schema document uOct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago uMar 2004 GGF 10 Berlin uJun 2004 GGF 11 Hawaii uJun 2004Submit schema document to GFSG Blue = GGF Milestones

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester NM-WG Milestones – GGF10 ** uOct 2003Draft of Schema document uOct 2003Set of Use Case queries uOct 2003Draft XML uOct 2003f2f discussion on XML and Schema uOct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago uDec 3003Agreed version of Schema document (data model) uJan 2003Create XML Schema Request & Report/Response uXxx 2003?? OGSI Spec. ?? uJan 2004Initial implementations and Proof of Concept Demos uMar 2004 GGF 10 Berlin uApr 2004Finish v2 of XML Schema request & response uXxx 2004Match with Requirements doc. uApr 2004Draft request and response of Metadata uXxx 2004Implement XML-RPC and Document/Literal PoC uXxx 2004Test implementations and Proof of Concept Demos uJun 2004 GGF 11 Hawaii uJun 2004NM_RG BoF uJun 2004Submit schema document to GFSG Blue = GGF Milestones

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester Getting Involved in NMWG uNetwork Measurements Working Group (NMWG) is part of the Performance and Information Systems area. uMailing list is uWeb-pages: uJoin mailing list and participate Send an to with the body "subscribe nm-wg"

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester Agenda for NM-GW Meeting 10 Mar 15:30 uAgenda bashing Note Takers uHierarchy document : Richard uMilestones: Richard 10/0 uOverview of GHPN-RG work on Network Services: Franco 15/25 uProposed new Network Measurements Research Group (BoF in Hawaii?): Brian 10/35 uOverview of WS-RF and how it effects NMWG work: Ben Clifford 10/45 uSummary / current status of Request schema: Mark/Paul 15/60 uSummary status on Response schema : Dan/[Martin] 15/75 upiPEs experience with new schema: Eric/[Warren] 10/85 uSLAC experience with new schema: Paola 10/95

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004 R. Hughes-Jones Manchester NM-WG Milestones – GGF8 uOct 2002Finalize tools classification format (and writeup) uOct 2002Begin work on relationship document uMar 2003 GGF 7 Tokyo uMar 2002Finalize hierarchy document uMar 2003Finalize tools classification note / web pages uMar 2003Begin work on Schemas document web page uApr 2003Submit hierarchy document to GFSG uMay 2003Submit tools classification to GFSG as web pages? uJun 2003Hierarchy document in internal NMWG Final Call uJun 2003Detailed discussion of Schemas document uJun 2003 GGF 8 Seattle uJun 2003 Submit hierarchy document to GFSG uOct 2003Draft of Schemas document – f2f discussion uXxx 2003?? Possible Joint Meeting / BOF to get OGSI input ?? uOct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago uXxx 2003?? Create XLM Schema / OGSI Spec. ?? uFeb 2004 GGF 10 Frankfurt