Diploma in Family History Occupational Records

Why? The Irish in the British Army

Where are the originals? National Archives, Kew Some few exceptions Guards regiments... Post 1920 records

Why are they so hard to grasp? 1660 Reforms Sheer scale Genealogy subscription sites

Where are the online copies? In general... TNA commercial deals with Pre-1913 FindMyPast.co.uk WW1 Ancestry.co.uk But... exceptions

General guide...nam.ac.uk

Detailed guide...

What records? Commissioned Non-commissioned Before or after 1913

Army List from Annotated copies downloadable from (“digital microfilm”) At Kew: WO 31, 25: Commissions WO 64: Promotions WO 25: Pensions National Archives catalogue search Commissioned officers

1785 Army List

discovery.nationalarchives.gov.u k

Service records pre-1913 Pension or non-pension? Pension: Chelsea or Kilmainham: FindMyPast Soldiers’ Documents (Discharges) – pension to 1883, all thereafter WO 97 To 1915 (?) on FindMyPast.co.uk Other, piecemeal, on FindMyPast.co.uk Records of the non- commissioned

Kilmainham Pensioner

Chelsea Pensioner

Enlistment record

Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Register of Soldiers who served in Canada (ancestry.co.uk)

Non-Pension records (Kew only) WO 12: Muster Books and Pay Lists ( ) 13,307 volumes Know the regiment! Campaign and Service Medals and Awards (ancestry.co.uk) Army service records

Post 1913: Ancestry.com Service: 3.6 million records Pension: 2.1 million records Medal Index: 5.3 million

Post 1913 WW1 short service record “Burnt” documents

Medal index cards Created c.1917/18 5 million entries Everyone who “served in a theatre of war” British War Medal Victory Medal Star

name, rank(s), unit(s), regimental number, medal entitlement [...] for explanation Medal index cards

War Graves Commission Deaths after

Irish Regiments => “About” Caution

War diaries Pot luck, partially digitised, paying => War diaries (crowdsourced)

Miscellaneous (!) (prisoners of war) Enlisted men Other Records Casualties and deserters Description Books Regimental Registers of Births,

Miscellaneous Other Deaths of Irish [...] African War ( ) (GRO) Ireland's Memorial Records (FindMyPast.ie)

Wills: search

soldierswills.nationalarchives.ie 9,000 pre-printed Free, fully-searchable Irish

FindMyPast.co.uk

Ancestry.com Service: 3.6 million records Pension: 2.1 million records Medal Index: 5.3 million

Summary?

POLICE 1814: Peace Preservation Force 1822: County Constabulary 1836: Irish Constabulary 1867: Royal Irish Constabulary Dublin Metropolitan Police

POLICE General Register NA- Kew (mf NAI, PRONI, LDS...) Herlihy, Jim: The Royal Irish Constabulary: a complete alphabetical list of officers and men, DMP: Garda Archives (mf NAI)

POLICE

LAWYERS: KING’S INNS Up to 1867: solicitors (apprentices); barristers (students). Family information required King's Inns admission papers, , edited by Edward Keane, P. Beryl Phair, and Thomas U. Sadlier (Dublin : Stationery Office for the Irish Manuscripts Commission, 1982). Later: Dublin directories

CLERGY Catholic: think sideways C of I: Biographical succession lists, RCBL Presbyterian:

Prison registers Cork city prison registers