Determining Substantial Equivalency Related to Credentials Evaluation Jim Smith, P.Eng. Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 2 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Topics 1.Professional engineers in Canada 2.Assessment systems 3.Mobility Themes - current practices - mobility (history and current practices)

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 3 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers The Engineering Profession in Canada 1.Provinces responsible for licensing, discipline and enforcement 2.Provinces create the legislative framework 3.Associations for self regulated professions. 4.Right to title: all those practicing engineering must be registered.

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 4 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Self Regulated Professions Resources (people and funds) from membership Province establishes legislative framework Professional associations - staff and volunteer organizations to manage registration, discipline, education etc. The national organization – provincially funded & (some) government (project) funding

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 5 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers The Engineering Profession in Canada 160,000 registered Engineers in 12 jurisdictions National academic and experience standards Provincial associations are responsibility for registration Standards and best practices facilitated through multi-association organization (CCPE)

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 6 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Evolution of licensure: 1. Academic assessment by educators 2. Limited experience assessment done by educators 3. Expand both academic and non academic assessment methods 4. Focus and expand on methods

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 7 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Standards for registration: –Education –Practical competency & experience –Continuing competency and professional development Multi stakeholder system –Individuals, industry, educational institutions, associations, government

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 8 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers - national body established by licensing bodies - leadership for national and international systems, issues and initiatives Tools - committees, task teams focused on professional systems or specific issues - standards and guidelines (best practices)

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 9 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers CCPE Assessment Systems: - CCPE has 2 Boards to establish standards. *Accreditation (CEAB) *Qualification (CEQB) - Boards formed from licensing body reps. - Boards establish the standards and guidelines  provinces implement within their legislative framework

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 10 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Education: 1.Accreditation Board (CEAB) plus Deans - Academic standard for Canadian universities 2.Qualification Board (CEQB) - Syllabus for exam program for non-CEAB programs 3.CCPE - Evaluate Foreign degree programs for equivalency

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 11 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Education Standards & References: 1.CEAB – accredited Canadian University list 2.CCPE - foreign degree list (recognized or substantially equivalent) - immigration application assessments

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 12 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Mutual Recognition Agreements (4): 1. Accreditation Board of Engineering and Technology - A.B.E.T. (U.S.) 2. Washington Accord (Recognition based on equivalency of accrediting organizations) - Ireland, U.K. Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, U.S. South Africa

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 13 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Mutual Recognition Agreements (4): 3. Between CTI (France) – substantially equivalent engineering programs and reciprocity of professional designations. 4. NAFTA – Canada, U.S., Mexico. (Implemented by Canadian associations and Texas)

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 14 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers EducationAccreditation Method Academic Acceptance Academic Action Canadian Eng. Degree CEAB reviewYesNone Recognized Degree CEAB, mutual recognition Yes – P.E.None Yes - exempt Foreign Eng. Degree Washington Accord; List, Non-List NoExempt; Exams or upgrade Technical Diploma Not accepted by CEAB NoExams or degree

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 15 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Experience and Character: Qualification Board (CEQB) establishes following guidelines –Admission to the Practice of Engineering –Code of Ethics –Professional Practice Exam –Continuing Professional Development

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 16 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Mobility - National The Canadian licensing bodies have a national agreement (IAMA) that provides for mobility and expedites licensing of engineers in Canadian provinces.

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 17 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Inter-association Mobility Agreement The IAMA works because of each licensing body adheres to guidelines for registration. The agreement recognizes the final authority within each jurisdiction (not withstanding clause)

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 18 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Mobility – International CCPE and some Provinces are actively pursuing mutual recognition agreements with other countries and states. Barriers are regional legislative differences, lack of knowledge of other systems

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 19 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers CCPE Summary: CCPE, the national council for professional engineering that is directed and supported by each province’s licensing body. The accreditation process & standards used by all our licensing bodies. Creation of recognition and mobility programs with several countries.

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 20 Canadian Council of Professional Engineers CCPE Summary (cont’d) System success due to relationships among the provinces and across all levels of government. CCPE expanding the quality, content, depth and accessibility of the foreign degree database. CCPE studying registration methods and impact on foreign trained engineers.

Presented at the 2005 CLEAR Annual Conference September Phoenix, Arizona 21 Speaker Contact Information Speaker name: Jim Smith, P. Eng Organization: Canadian Council of Professional Engineers Address: 180 Elgin Street, Ottawa, Ontario Phone: Office: (877) Cell:(780) Fax: (613) Website: