WHEN CHRISTIANS GET IT WRONG In Dealing with Homosexuality.

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WHEN CHRISTIANS GET IT WRONG In Dealing with Homosexuality

This is a controversial subject and class members will have different points of view on homosexuality. Most young adults agree that gay and lesbian persons deserve love, compassions, and respect and that too many Christians fail to show it to them.

The purpose of this study is for us to learn how to discuss homosexuality so that he turn people toward God and not away from God. What is the United Methodist position on homosexuality?

United Methodist Position ¶ 4. Article IV. Inclusiveness of the Church Homosexual persons no less than heterosexual persons are individuals of sacred worth. All persons need the ministry and guidance of the church in their struggles for human fulfillment, as well as the spiritual and emotional care of a fellowship that enables reconciling relationships with God, with others, and with self.

The United Methodist Church does not condone the practice of homosexuality and consider this practice incompatible with Christian teaching. We affirm that God's grace is available to all, and we will seek to live together in Christian community. We implore families and churches not to reject or condemn lesbian and gay members and friends. We commit ourselves to be in ministry for and with all persons.

How long has the UMV been ordaining females as ministers?

The Methodist Episcopal Church licensed and ordained women as local preachers in the early 1920s. However that position changed in 1939 at the time of union with the Methodist Episcopal Church South and the Methodist Protestant Church. In 1956 full clergy rights were granted to women in The Methodist church. The last of the mainline Protestant denominations (The Episcopal Church) did not approve ordination of women until 1976.

Read 1 Timothy 2:8-15 Two out of our three lay leaders are females, our council chair is a female, we have many female SS teachers, we have and have had female associate ministers. Many of the ladies in this class enjoy participating in the discussion. How do you justify this in light of what the Bible says in these verses?

Do you believe it was right for the UMC to deny women the opportunity to be ordained even though those women felt called into the ministry? Why is it OK now for women to be ordained as UMC ministers but it wasn’t before 1956? The Bible didn’t change so what did?

Can homosexuals be ordained as a Methodist minister? Regarding the ministry of the ordained ¶304.3 While persons set apart by the Church for ordained ministry are subject to all the frailties of the human condition and the pressures of society, they are required to maintain the highest standards of holy living in the world. The practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching. Therefore self-avowed practicing homosexuals are not to be certified as candidates, ordained as ministers, or appointed to serve in The United Methodist Church.

One question a young adult might ask is, In the Bible, there are several laws against sex outside of marriage including fornication, adultery, incest and bestiality. Is it fair to only single out homosexuals and say they can’t be ordained? How would you respond?

Based on what happened with the ordination of women back in the 1950’s, do you see any correlation to the ordination of homosexuals today?

Can same sex marriages be performed in the UMC? ¶Marriage We support laws in civil society that define marriage as the union of one man and one woman. Ceremonies that celebrate homosexual unions shall not be conducted by our ministers and shall not be conducted in our churches.

In recent years, mainline Protestant denominations — which are different from evangelical Christian churches that read the Bible as literal truth — have one by one changed rules that had prohibited marriage and ordination of gays and lesbians. The Episcopal Church, Presbyterian Church U.S.A., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and the United Church of Christ at one time all barred same-sex wedding ceremonies and ordination of gay clergy members, but they have changed those rules over time. The last holdout among major mainline Protestant groups has been the United Methodist Church

There is a growing grassroots movement within the United Methodist church to change the Book of Discipline, our denominational book of policies, that includes a statement prohibiting churches and clergy from performing marriage ceremonies for same-sex couples.

Nearly 700 United Methodist clergy and laypersons from throughout the nation are meeting in Huron, Ohio, to discuss efforts to change their denomination’s rules barring ordination of gay clergy and the blessing of same-sex unions. If their efforts fail to change church law at next year’s General Conference — and many reform advocates expect they will be outvoted — a growing number of ministers plan to disregard the rules and start performing same-sex marriages.

The 1,000 delegates to the April, 2012, conference in Tampa have already been elected by their regional bodies and will vote on resolutions to change the United Methodists’ Book of Discipline, notably its statement that “the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching.”

Does the UMC believe all persons, regardless of sexual orientation, should have equal rights? Equal Rights Regardless of Sexual Orientation Certain basic human rights and civil liberties are due all persons. We are committed to supporting those rights and liberties for homosexual persons.... Moreover, we support efforts to stop violence and other forms of coercion against gays and lesbians.

Do you believe that this position is compatible with Christian teaching? Why or why not? How would you explain your position to someone outside the church?