IETF 85 th 1 Host Identification: Scenarios draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-01 IETF 85-Atlanta, November 2012 M. Boucadair, S. Durel,

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IETF 85 th 1 Host Identification: Scenarios draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-01 IETF 85-Atlanta, November 2012 M. Boucadair, S. Durel, D. Binet & T. Reddy

IETF 85 th 2 Background Host identification issue was raised in the BBF/3GPP FMC Workshop (November 2011) – 09_3GPP_BBF_SFO/Docs/3BF ziphttp:// 09_3GPP_BBF_SFO/Docs/3BF zip –“Encourage IETF work on mechanisms to enable identifying individual UEs behind NAT/RGs” Some progress was made in intarea WG –RFC 6269: listing issues encountered in address sharing context including implicit host identification (June 2011) – analysis: analyzed 9 candidate solutions (Work started in March 2011) analysis

IETF 85 th 3 So, what is still missing? Solution specification? –A gap analysis is needed from the FMC community Is this issue specific to the so called FMC use case? This draft aims to provide a big picture overview of scenarios where the host identification issue is encountered –No solution-related discussion is included in the draft

IETF 85 th 4 Is this issue specific to the so called FMC use case? No 9 scenarios are identified so far: –CGN –A+P/MAP –Application Proxies –UE behind a NATing RG –FAP behind a NATing RG –Applying policies when a NAT is located in the boundary of the mobile network –Correlating between internal IP address:port and external IP address:port (PDP/PEP in NATed context) –Access to some cloud services when a NAT is in the path –Assign an IPv6 prefix to a host in the context of Provider Wi-Fi These are the so called FMC case

IETF 85 th 5 The identified FMC case is deployment-specific Enforcing the NAT in the RG for a visiting UE will bring all the issues discussed in RFC6269 for the subscriber owning the RG –Is this acceptable for all service providers? –The main advantage is to leverage on the NAT in the RG and avoid introducing a CGN in the Provider’s network –Can be appropriate for community Wi-Fi service

IETF 85 th 6 The identified FMC case is deployment-specific If the NAT is not enforced in the RG but in the Service Provider’s network –The customer owning the RG is not impacted by a misbehaving visiting UE –Still, UEs sharing the same IP address will suffer from the same issues as for the CGN case In both case (NAT in RG or NAT in Service Provider’s network), the host identification is still problematic

IETF 85 th 7 Generalizing the Problem The host identification issue is valid for both IPv4 and IPv6 –IPv4 The causes are address sharing, distinct administrative boundaries, use of tunnels, etc. Mainly for applying policies: DSCP remarking, volume-based service offering, blacklist, etc. Need to correlate between the external IP address and internal IP address –IPv6 For applying policies in the context of NPTv6 For assigning an IPv6 prefix in some contexts

IETF 85 th 8 Conclusions Host Identification is a valid technical problem –For both IPv4 and IPv6 It is encountered in some FMC-related scenarios…but it is not specific to FMC If the IETF has to conduct additional work on the host identification item, handling the issue with a big picture view is more valuable –Restricting it to FMC case is not encouraged