Why So Much Suffering? Robert C. Newman. The Usual Objection If God is all-powerful, He is able to stop suffering, isn’t He? If God is perfectly righteous,

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Why So Much Suffering? Robert C. Newman

The Usual Objection If God is all-powerful, He is able to stop suffering, isn’t He? If God is perfectly righteous, He would stop suffering, wouldn’t He? But we see suffering, don’t we? So! Either God is not all-powerful, or He isn’t perfectly righteous, or He doesn’t exist!

The Impact of this Argument: e.g., among Jewish people Many say this is the reason they gave up believing in God. A good, all-powerful God would not have allowed the Holocaust. Rabbi Harold Kushner gives up the idea that God is all-powerful. He is doing the best He can!

Our Approach Is there a God? Is this God the God of the Bible? Is He loving? Why, then, is there suffering? Why so much suffering?

Is There a God? Evidence for a created universe Cosmology points to a universe with a beginning. This universe is strikingly designed. Evidence for created life The simplest life is complex enough that the universe couldn’t have made it on its own. Life is astonishingly organized, far beyond the ability of mutation and natural selection to explain. Yes, there is a God, Creator and Designer.

Is this God the God of the Bible? Evidence from fulfilled prophecy Nations Israel Messiah Evidence from changed lives Changed individuals Changed societies Yes, the God who exists is the God of the Bible.

The Bible’s God The Bible pictures God as all-powerful. The Bible pictures God as perfectly righteous. The Bible indicates that evil & suffering exist. The Bible indicates that evil & suffering will always exist, but that one day they will be confined to Hell (the Lake of Fire) after the Last Judgment.

Is God Loving? What is your definition of “love”? If one defines “love” so that it will never, under any circumstances, allow suffering, then the God of the Bible is not loving by this definition. But this doesn’t work even for real human love. In parenting, note the recent emphasis on “tough love.”

What is Biblical Love? Love is (1 Corinthians 13:4-7): Patient, kind, not envious, not boasting, Not proud, not rude, not self-seeking, not easily angered, Keeps no record, doesn’t delight in evil, Rejoices with the truth, Always protects, trusts, hopes, perseveres. God is loving in this sense.

Why, then, is there suffering? God is all-powerful. God is perfectly righteous. He is able to stop suffering. But He doesn’t stop all suffering. Apparently, then, He must have perfectly good reasons for allowing suffering to occur and continue. What might these reasons be?

God as Parent A righteous God must punish evil. Parents sometimes do this by direct action. Sometimes they let events take their course. Suffering is often needed to encourage maturity. Parents gradually let up on control so the child makes its own decisions. They let up on protection so the child learns actions have consequences. They let up on punishment so child does right for the right reasons.

God as Creator In a world of cause and effect, the action of sinners (rebels, wicked people) will cause suffering, to themselves and others. Without such a system of cause and effect, there is no way to experience how bad evil is.

Other Models of God God as hotel-keeper If everything is not just right, he is not doing his job. But maybe God is not a hotel-keeper. God as novelist Can a novelist be a good person and have bad characters in his novel? Can a good novelist have even the good characters in his novel experience suffering? Yes! Two of my favorites are Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings and Lewis’ Narnia Chronicles.

More on God as Novelist What purposes might a novelist have for including evil & suffering? Making money? Providing entertainment? Giving the reader vicarious experience? Helping the reader learn about life? What purposes might God have? Book of Job Ephesians 3:10 Matthew 13:44-46

The Book of Job Do we serve God for who He is … … or for what we can get out of it? How do we respond to calamity in our own lives?

Ephesians 3:10 His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms,

Matthew 13: The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field. 45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. 46 When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it.

Why So Much Suffering? Mankind is very sinful, so producing & reaping much suffering. Disaster is an advance warning of the wrath to come (Luke 13:1-9). There is superhuman evil in the world. Will there be suffering forever? See Luke 16:19-21 What about babies suffering? See John 21:21-23

God Suffers Too “In all their afflictions, He was afflicted” – Isaiah 63:9 “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me?” – Acts 9:4-9 “Inasmuch as you did/didn’t do it to the least of these, you did/didn’t do it to Me.” – Matthew 25:40, 45

Conclusions God apparently has good reasons for allowing suffering. What are we doing to relieve suffering? We should seek to avoid eternal suffering and help others to, also. God has suffered more than anyone else to save us from such eternal suffering.

The End You can escape suffering, And help others do so as well.