CAO Information Night Tuesday 6th December 2012 Guidance Counsellor:Ms.Geraldine Mulvey St Francis College Rochestown St Francis College, Rochestown Co.

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CAO Information Night Tuesday 6th December 2012 Guidance Counsellor:Ms.Geraldine Mulvey St Francis College Rochestown St Francis College, Rochestown Co. Cork. Tel: Fax:

Presentation Career Guidance The CAO System Leaving Cert Points Grid National Framework of Qualifications The CAO Application Process Points for popular courses in UCC HPAT - Medicine Useful Websites – So where are the Jobs? 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey2

Career Guidance Take stock of their present circumstances Understand the factors influencing their decision making Appreciate more realistically what they have to offer Review & evaluate options Identify preferred options Formulate an action plan 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey3

The CAO Organisation founded in 1976 by the higher education institutions (HEIs) in the Republic of Ireland. Purpose is to process applications centrally and to deal with them in an efficient and fair manner. It is the applicants own responsibility to ensure that the application is submitted accurately and in time. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey4

Irish Leaving Certificate Examination Points Calculation Grid 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey5

Core Subjects - MATHS  Fewer than 20% of Leaving Certificate students take this subject at higher level (nationally)  If you are capable of studying this subject at higher level, there are tremendous career opportunities  Higher Level Maths (C3) is a requirement for Level 8 Engineering Degree Courses and Mathematical Science in CIT and NUI’s  2012: BONUS points (25 pts for achieving D3 in HL maths) where students have an honour in higher level maths – now awarded in all the NUI’s, UL, DIT, teacher training colleges plus WIT

Accompanying conditions: The six best results, in recognised subjects, in one Leaving Certificate Examination will be counted for points computation. One sitting only of the Leaving Certificate Examination will be counted for points purposes. In the case of Foundation Level Mathematics or Foundation Level Irish, some HEIs may not award the points shown above. If in any doubt, check with the Admissions Office of the appropriate HEIs. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey7

National Framework of Qualifications  Level 3 Junior Certificate  Level 5 Leaving Certificate/PLC  Level 6 Higher Certificate  Level 7 Ordinary Degree  Level 8 Honours Degree  Level 9 /10 Masters/ PhD 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey8

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The Application Process Information on courses is available from each HEI and the prospectus should be consulted before making an application 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey10

CAO distributes to schools and individuals an application pack containing an Application Form and a Handbook containing instructions and information about the application process. Every applicant should be familiar with the contents of the CAO Handbook 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey11

Timely Action In order to be fair to all applicants, closing dates are strict and therefore action should be taken in good time. Do not leave everything to the last minute. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey12

Choosing Courses Consult your Guidance Counsellor Discuss your options with family and friends Details about courses may be found in HEI prospectuses and by consulting HEI websites. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey13

Making an application Applicants are encouraged to apply online. The website address is Applying online is cheaper and it prevents many of the errors commonly associated with completing a paper application form. Normal online application €40 (1 st Feb. 2012) Discounted rate €30 (20 th Jan 2012) 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey14

Application Form: Part A Part A of the Application Form is mostly self explanatory. Information which identifies you is of the utmost importance. Carefully enter details such as your name, address, date of birth, schools attended etc. 30/11/09 Ms.Geraldine Mulvey15

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Two Applications on One Form There are two course choice lists and applicants may make up to ten course choices on each list. 10 choices may be made on the Level 8 list 10 choices may be made on the Level 7/6 list 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey17

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Two Applications on One Form It is possible to receive an offer on both lists You may then decide to accept either your Level 7/6 or your Level 8 offer. Alternatively, you might not wish to accept either offer. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey19

Order of Preference If you learn nothing else from this presentation let it be this... Place your course choices in genuine order of preference! To do otherwise is a grave mistake. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey20

Application Form: Part B Most applicants will not be required to complete Part B of the application form. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey21

Supplementary Application Form (SIF) The Higher Education Access Route (HEAR): A 3 rd level admissions scheme for school leavers from socially economic disadvantaged backgrounds. (see pg. 8 of CAO Handbook) Must provide additional info/documentation (income revenue forms, social welfare benefits..... by 1 st of April 2012 DARE: Disability Access Route to Education Asperger’s, Autism, ADD. Dyspraxia, Dyslexia, Physical Disability.... Submit evidence of Disability and second level Academic Reference to CAO by 1 st April /11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey22

Your Application Number If you apply online your application number will appear on your Receipt of Online Application. ◦ This number is private and it will be used in every correspondence between you and the CAO for the rest of the year. ◦ If you apply online you may change your course choices free of charge until January 31 st. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey23

Statement of Course Choices The Statement is important for two reasons: 1. The Statement of Course Choices includes notification of your CAO application number. 2.The Statement of Course Choices lists the courses that you have applied for. If you have made any mistake or omission in your course choices then now is the time to rectify your error. Pay particular attention to restricted courses. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey24

Communicating With CAO The easiest and most efficient way to communicate with CAO is by using the 'Contact Us' facility on the CAO website. Always quote your CAO application number in any communication with CAO. If you post something to CAO, always obtain a certificate of posting at the post office. This is a free service and it offers you peace of mind. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey25

Statement of Application Record. Check the following carefully, if there is any error or omission, amend the Statement and return it to CAO. ◦ Are all the courses shown and in the correct order? ◦ Are all the codes correct? ◦ Are the exam numbers correct? ◦ Are all exams mentioned? ◦ If you do not receive a Statement by 1 st June contact CAO immediately. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey26

Change of mind ◦ It is safer to use the Change of Mind Facility on the website than to use a paper Change of Mind form. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey27

Change of Mind 1 st Nov to 1 st Feb (17:15) – no fee 5 th of Feb (12:00) to 1 st March - €10 charge 5 th of May (12:00) to 1 st July (17:15) – no fee Late application to CAO not later then 5pm, 22 nd July – extra fee 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey28

The Offer Process In the week following the release of the Leaving Certificate results CAO will post a communication to all applicants. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey29

The Offer Process If you are entitled to an offer, you will be sent an offer notice. You should check that all of the details on the offer notice are correct and that there are no omissions. Offers will also be available on the CAO website. You may check for and accept offers on the website. In fact, most applicants now record acceptances online. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey30

The Offer Process Your offer notice may contain an offer ◦ for a Level 8 course ◦ or a Level 7/6 course ◦ or both If you receive two offers at the same time you may only accept one of them. If you wish to accept an offer of a place you must carry out the instructions on the offer notice before 5.15pm on the closing date for acceptance printed on the offer notice. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey31

The Offer Process There can be no delays at the offer/acceptance stage. Any offer not accepted by the closing date for receipt of acceptance of offers in CAO will be offered to another applicant in the next round of offers. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey32

How Places are Allocated We will look just at Level 8 courses, but exactly the same process will take place with Level 7/6 courses, and at the same time. The importance of you, the applicant, placing courses in genuine order of preference will become apparent in the following slides. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey33

How Places are Allocated When examination results are released in August they are entered into the CAO computer. The computer checks each applicant’s results. For each course the applicant has applied for, the computer first determines if the applicant has the minimum entry requirements for the course. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey34

How Places are Allocated If the applicant meets the minimum entry requirements for the course, the applicant’s points are calculated for this course choice. All eligible applicants are then placed in a list, in order of academic merit, for each course that they applied for. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey35

How Places are Allocated The admissions officers of the Higher Education Institutions tell CAO how many places are to be offered on each course CAO then makes offers to the required number of applicants on each course starting with the applicant with the highest points and working down until enough places have been offered. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey36

How Places are Allocated Should some applicants decline to accept their offers these places become available in the next round of offers. They will be offered to the next applicants on the order of merit list. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey37

These are the applicants for CK101 Arts in UCC. The examination results have not yet been released, so these applicants are in no particular order. We are going to trace the progress of the applicant marked in red. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey38

Applicants are placed in a queue for each course they applied for, their position in the queue is determined by their points. The applicant with the highest points is placed at the top of the queue. The points achieved by the applicant in red determines his position in the queue for each course he applied to. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey39

The applicants marked in green have enough points to be offered places. The applicant marked in red has enough points for his second preference. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey40

The applicant in red is offered his second preference, the highest preference course that he has enough points for, and he will now disappear from the queue in all his lower choices. Placing DN201 as his second preference meant that he would prefer to receive an offer on DN201 than on any other course except CK101 - which is his first preference. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey41

Having been offered his second preference he must now decide to accept it or to do nothing. If he does not accept the offer the place will be offered to another applicant in the next round of offers. Regardless of whether he accepts or not he will still be considered for an offer on his first preference if a place becomes available. In the second round, one more offer was made on CK101 and our applicant is now at the top of the queue. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey42

In the third round of offers two more offers are made on CK101 and our applicant, who was at the top of the queue, now receives an offer. He may do nothing and remain in DN201 or he may accept the offer and begin in CK /11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey43

Genuine Order of Preference You do not need to guess what the points are going to be for the courses you are interested in. Simply list your courses in genuine order of preference from the highest preference 1, to the lowest preference 10. If you are entitled to an offer, you will be offered the highest preference that you are entitled to. 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey44

College Courses (UCC) Required points Arts BIS ( Business Information Systems ) Sports Studies and Physical Education480*470 Commerce Law480*485 Law and French Electrical and Electronic Engineering Energy Engineering Architecture/CIT Science (Biological and Chemical) Medicine#734 #725 Dentistry570*570* Food Marketing and Entrepreneurship Ms.Geraldine Mulvey4530/11/09

HPAT (Health Professions Admission Test) Registration deadline – Mon 18 th Jan 2012 Test Date – Sat 25 Feb 2012 (2 ½ hr exam) Results issued in late June sections assessed (aptitude test) (total: 300 marks) 1Logical reasoning and problem solving skills 2Interpersonal Understanding 3 Verbal Reasoning Leaving Cert Pts plus HPAT combined = max score 860pts Min LC pts = 480 to max 560 (moderated thereafter up to 560) 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey46

Scoring LC + HPat 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey47 If you achieve 600 points in the LCE this will become 560 adjusted LCE points and if you achieve a score of 155 in the HPAT-Ireland test, your overall score will be 715. Similarly if you achieve 540 points in the LCE, and then get a HPAT-Ireland score of 175, your overall score will be 715. Or if you achieve 480 points in the LCE and then 235 in HPAT-Ireland, your overall score will be 715.

Useful Websites Careersportal.ie /11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey48

Info CAO Presentation available on school website: 30/11/09Ms.Geraldine Mulvey49

Thriving sectors presently in Ireland, Where are the jobs in Ireland? Your footnoteYour Logo ‐ ICT ‐ Pharmaceuticals ‐ Food & Drink

Sectoral skills – shortages identified by sector ICT Green economy Bio-pharma / pharmachem sector Food and beverage sector International financial services Medical devices Wholesale and retail Cross sectoral enterprise/generic skill Mathematical proficiency, foreign language and foreign market understanding, business acumen and enterprise Current Occupational skills shortages ICT programmers, science professionals, engineering, sales and marketing, transport and supply chain specialists, financial service Future Jobs ? Expert group on future skills needs Forfas report 2010

8 of the top 10 pharmaceutical companies. 9 out of the top 10 global ICT companies. 5 of the top global software companies. 15 out of the top 25 medical devices companies. More than 50% of the worlds leading financial services Let’s look at the industries in Ireland: Your footnoteYour Logo

ICT Companies based in Ireland

Who is recruiting UCC Graduates?

Tech sector is thriving approx 70 jobs announced every week since the start of the year Currently there are roughly 3,500 vacancies in the sector (this needs to be addressed as there is clearly a skills shortage) Not just tech jobs but jobs in marketing, sales, product management, project management, multilingual roles, business analytics etc. ICT Sector in Ireland Your footnoteYour Logo

25,300 people are employed in the Irish PharmaChemicalsector, 46% of which are third-level graduates. 25% of all PhD researchers in Irish industry are employed in the sector. In 2010 the Irish pharmaceutical and chemical sector exported products to the value of 50.8 billion Ireland’s pharmaceutical exports are the 7 th largest in the world. Ireland is the largest net exporter of pharmaceuticals in the world Pharma facts Your footnoteYour Logo

€24bn turnover 600 companies 46,000 and 60,000 indirect employees Utilises 90% of agricultural output Exports €8.9bn to 120 countries Largest net exporter of beef, lamb and dairy ingredients in the EU 80% of dairy and 90% of beef exported and produces 20% of the global supply of infant formula Your footnoteYour Logo Food & Drink Industry-The future is bright

The world will have to produce 70% more food to feed another 2.3bn people by 2050 ( UN Food and Agriculture Organisation ) Your footnoteYour Logo

“Many of the jobs in 2015 and most of the jobs in 2030 do not currently exist and cannot be foreseen yet.” Expert Group on New Skills for New Jobs – report prepared for the European Commission (February 2010 Tomorrow’s jobs Your footnoteYour Logo