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Western Classical Thought and Culture Socrates’ methods

1. Who is Socrates? Socrates ( BC) He was strikingly ugly, had an unorthodox manner of dress and often wandered around barefooted. He taught orally and did not put his doctrines into writing. His student, Plato, wrote dialogues that reflect his views. 2

Unlike the Sophists (who were paid for teaching wealthy aristocrats the skills of oration and persuasive argument) Socrates charged no fee and taught students (including women) from various walks of life 3

2. What does Socrates do?—Exposing ignorance 4

When I conversed with him I came to see that, though a great many persons, and most of all he himself, thought that he was wise, yet he was not wise. Then I tried to prove to him that he was not wise, though he fancied that he was. By so doing I made him indignant, and many of the bystanders. So when I went away, I thought to myself, “I am wiser than this man: neither of us knows anything that is really worth knowing, but he thinks that he has knowledge when he has not, while I, having no knowledge, do not think that I have. I seem, at any rate to be a little wiser than he is on this point: I do not think that I know what I do not know.” (p.34) 5

3. Socrates’ method of questioning The most powerful feature of the method is that instead of simply being given information, the pupils discover for themselves their own ignorance and are skillfully led to discover the truth on their own. 6

Pose a question: what is X? X refers to some property. --- What’s Piety? --Euthyphro --- What’s Justice? -- Republic --- What’s Virtue? -- Meno --- What’s meaning? -- Sophist --- What’s Love? -- Symposium Stages of Socrates’ questioning

Socrates admits his own ignorance; his partner confidently put forth a definition of X. Socrates examines the definition and discovers that it is inadequate. His partner improves his definition; Socrates examines it again; the new definition is once again found to fail. The process are repeated several times until his partner realizes that he doesn’t really know what he is talking about. 8

Reading: Plato’s Laches 1. What’s the first definition of courage Laches offers? And how does he feel about his definition? 2. Is Socrates satisfied with his definition? Why? 3. What does Socrates mean by “common quality”? 4. What is the second definition of courage Laches offers? 5. What’s the problem of the second definition? 6. How does Laches feel about his definitions of courage in the end? 9

3.2 How does Socrates attack a definition?  Structural flaw  The argument is circular: “Justice is what a just person does”.  A part is identified with the whole.  A mere list of examples is offered instead of the defining property that is common to them all.  “reducing to an absurdity”  If we can deduce a clearly false statement from a proposition, this is definitive proof that the original assumption was false.  Use counterexample to show that a definition is either too narrow or too broad 10