A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E APNIC NIR Meeting What is an NIR? Paul Wilson, APNIC

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E Background – NIR Meetings Initiated as informal hostmaster session Initiated as informal hostmaster session For policy review, training, networking (1999) For policy review, training, networking (1999) Became gradually more structured Became gradually more structured Wider issues, agendas, and reports (2000) Wider issues, agendas, and reports (2000) Chaired by Seung-Min Lee, KRNIC Chaired by Seung-Min Lee, KRNIC Now held as open sessions Now held as open sessions Since proposed and agreed in KL (3/2001) Since proposed and agreed in KL (3/2001) Chair: Akinori Maemura, JPNIC Chair: Akinori Maemura, JPNIC

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E Background – NIR Meetings Major topics … Major topics … Operational and hostmaster matters Operational and hostmaster matters Original purpose of meeting Original purpose of meeting Now move to Hostmaster Workshop Now move to Hostmaster Workshop NIR staff exchange NIR staff exchange Coordinating and reporting on NIR staff visits to APNIC Coordinating and reporting on NIR staff visits to APNIC NIR policies NIR policies Review, comparison, and refinement Review, comparison, and refinement Intention to converge on consistent policies Intention to converge on consistent policies Allocation procedures - agent model Allocation procedures - agent model

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E Background – NIR Meetings Major topics, continued … Major topics, continued … NIR fee and membership structure NIR fee and membership structure Concerns about voting and fee issues Concerns about voting and fee issues KL Meeting: response from APNIC EC KL Meeting: response from APNIC EC Criteria for new NIRs Criteria for new NIRs Review and comparison with existing NIRs Review and comparison with existing NIRs Ongoing discussion: What is an NIR? Ongoing discussion: What is an NIR? KL, March 2001 KL, March 2001

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E What is an NIR? Or: Where is an NIR? Or: Where is an NIR? Somewhere between RIR and LIR Somewhere between RIR and LIR But where? … But where? … APNICNIR LIR

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E What is an NIR? Where is an NIR? Where is an NIR? Closer to RIR member? Closer to RIR member? Yes: Yes: Pay member fees Pay member fees Vote at meetings Vote at meetings But: But: They are not and cannot be ISPs They are not and cannot be ISPs APNICNIR LIR

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E What is an NIR? Where is an NIR? Where is an NIR? Closer to RIR? Closer to RIR? Yes: Yes: Similar structure, responsibilities and operations Similar structure, responsibilities and operations Independent from ISPs Independent from ISPs But: But: Treated like APNIC members in other respects Treated like APNIC members in other respects APNICNIR LIR

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E What is an NIR? Current status Current status Can we improve on this? Can we improve on this? Efforts so far… Efforts so far… Role and responsibilities (New NIR discussion) Role and responsibilities (New NIR discussion) Operational Model Operational Model Membership Model Membership Model APNICNIR LIR

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E Role and responsibilities Core operational responsibility Core operational responsibility Review, negotiate and resolve requests Review, negotiate and resolve requests Maintain whois and reverse DNS Maintain whois and reverse DNS Coordinate local policy process Coordinate local policy process i.e. Same as APNICs role i.e. Same as APNICs role Support and service for LIRs in country Support and service for LIRs in country Local language and knowledge Local language and knowledge i.e. Opportunity to improve APNICs service and efficiency, to do a better job i.e. Opportunity to improve APNICs service and efficiency, to do a better job

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E Original model… Original model… Asynchronous request process Asynchronous request process Intermediate pool of addresses held by NIR Intermediate pool of addresses held by NIR Serious fragmentation Serious fragmentation Serious address management problem for ISPs Serious address management problem for ISPs Operational model IPIPIPAllocateAllocate APNICNIR LIRRequestNegotiateRequestNegotiate

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E Agent model… Agent model… Coordinated request/approval/allocation Coordinated request/approval/allocation Single pool of addresses Single pool of addresses Greatly reduced fragmentation Greatly reduced fragmentation Efficient management of address space Efficient management of address space Operational model IPIP Allocate APNICNIR LIRApproveRequestNegotiate

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E Implication of Agent model? Implication of Agent model? NIR operates closer to APNIC NIR operates closer to APNIC All NIR members/ISPs are APNIC members All NIR members/ISPs are APNIC members NIR is no longer a member but an agent in some closer sense NIR is no longer a member but an agent in some closer sense Operational model IPIPAllocate APNICNIR LIRRequestNegotiate

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E Membership Model Problems raised about fees and voting Problems raised about fees and voting No solution proposed yet No solution proposed yet But problems taken into account in current proposal for new categories But problems taken into account in current proposal for new categories Implications of agent model on membership? Implications of agent model on membership? Potentially fundamental change Potentially fundamental change Needs discussion and initiative from NIRs Needs discussion and initiative from NIRs

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E Conclusions? NIR operating model NIR operating model Extend agency model of allocation? Extend agency model of allocation? Standardise for all NIRs and NIR members? Standardise for all NIRs and NIR members? Can we decide this ? Can we decide this ? Solution to one major policy issue Solution to one major policy issue NIR membership model? NIR membership model? Need a special member agreement? Need a special member agreement? Future of NIRs? Future of NIRs? Especially: New NIRs in future? Especially: New NIRs in future?

A S I A P A C I F I C N E T W O R K I N F O R M A T I O N C E N T R E APNIC NIR Meeting Questions?